Gender Fluid etc, Opinions?

[Guest makapaka]

A trans woman who has had a sex change is of course no longer male. That's why it's called a sex change and not a gender change operation.

 

They are still male - they just don’t have male sexual organs anymore.

[melthebell]

see the bigots are all experts on genetics, biology and what goes through peoples heads and bodies again

[ENG601PM]

Chromosomes aren't bigots.

[Cyclone]

They are still male - they just don’t have male sexual organs anymore.

 

No they aren't. They aren't legally male, they aren't physically male, it's called a sex change.

 

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A refusal to accept a post operative sex change woman as female is simply bigotry.

[Halibut]

No they aren't. They aren't legally male, they aren't physically male, it's called a sex change.

 

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A refusal to accept a post operative sex change woman as female is simply bigotry.

 

Undeniably true.

[ukdobby]

Undeniably true.

 

No it isn't.

[monkey104]

All you need to do is ask how they prefer to be addressed.

A couple of days ago I met what I thought was a pleasant young man in a professional capacity.

When I asked for some ID he produced a document addressed to a female. I asked if it was addressed incorrectly and he said no that is his name and he was actually transgender.

I apologised asked how he preferred to be addressed and it turns out she was just a pleasant young lady.

It’s not rocket science. If you are not sure, and you are in a position where you need to ask, just do it respectfully and crack on

[Halibut]

No it isn't.

 

You would say that.

 

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All you need to do is ask how they prefer to be addressed.

A couple of days ago I met what I thought was a pleasant young man in a professional capacity.

When I asked for some ID he produced a document addressed to a female. I asked if it was addressed incorrectly and he said no that is his name and he was actually transgender.

I apologised asked how he preferred to be addressed and it turns out she was just a pleasant young lady.

It’s not rocket science. If you are not sure, and you are in a position where you need to ask, just do it respectfully and crack on

 

Spot on. Doubtless the bigots will continue to be gammony and froth a bit about it though.

[ENG601PM]

The laws of the land can say what they like, the laws of nature say different. Male. Female. Abnormal.

 

If you have evidence of something different you'll win a Nobel prize instead of (what would undoubtedly be) trying to educate pork on here.

 

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All you need to do is ask how they prefer to be addressed.

Exactly.

 

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[Guest makapaka]

No they aren't. They aren't legally male, they aren't physically male, it's called a sex change.

 

---------- Post added 20-05-2018 at 17:08 ----------

 

A refusal to accept a post operative sex change woman as female is simply bigotry.

 

It’s not bigotry at all - by any definition.

 

I have no problem accepting their choice to identify as a female - but they are still a man who has had an operation to remove their genitals.