Gender Fluid etc, Opinions?

[ENG601PM]

You do know the difference between tansVESTITES and TransEXUALS?

 

One's a bloke in a dress. The other's a bloke in a dress who says he's a woman.

 

 

(Courtesy Eddie Izzard - famous transvestite)

Edited May 30, 2018 by ENG601PM

[danot]

I'm changing the topic momentarily just to raise a point to anyone confused about and/or cynical about gender fluid identity, perhaps believing it's just another condition that stems from an underlying mental illness. instead of gender, lets talk ethnicity. Take a minute to imagine how a mixed race child who may identify themselves as being white having had a predominantly white upbringing with no connection with their black/none white parent/culture. Now, obviously, you'd be confused if they were to say they were white, but once you know their background, should it alter the fact that they identify with being white?

[Guest makapaka]

I'm changing the topic momentarily just to raise a point to anyone confused about and/or cynical about gender fluid identity, perhaps believing it's just another condition that stems from an underlying mental illness. instead of gender, lets talk ethnicity. Take a minute to imagine how a mixed race child who may identify themselves as being white having had a predominantly white upbringing with no connection with their black/none white parent/culture. Now, obviously, you'd be confused if they were to say they were white, but once you know their background, should it alter the fact that they identify with being white?

 

I see what you’re trying to say but in this instance your comparison isn’t valid - race is different to sex.

 

Youre mixing appearance with biology.

[Chez2]

I see what you’re trying to say but in this instance your comparison isn’t valid - race is different to sex.

 

Youre mixing appearance with biology.

 

But sex isn’t the same as gender so I’m confused by your comment; care to explain please?

[Guest makapaka]

But sex isn’t the same as gender so I’m confused by your comment; care to explain please?

 

No - we agree.

[danot]

I see what you’re trying to say but in this instance your comparison isn’t valid - race is different to sex.

 

Youre mixing appearance with biology.

But race and gender are only coincidental factors, the primary factor that links both is the self identity crisis.

[Guest makapaka]

But race and gender are only coincidental factors, the primary factor that links both is the self identity crisis.

 

I think I’ve misinterpreted your point to be honest - I thought it was in support of people saying they had changed sex as earlier posters were suggesting.

 

Apologies.

[danot]

I think I’ve misinterpreted your point to be honest - I thought it was in support of people saying they had changed sex as earlier posters were suggesting.

 

Apologies.

No worries.

[ANGELFIRE1]

On the Nicky Campbell show this morning, discussing self determining your sex. I watched it, but 99% of it went over my head. It's a terribly confusing conversation.

 

Angel1

[leviathan13]

If it looks like a man and sounds like a man, it's going to be treated like a man.

 

There's the beautiful moment on the Sunday morning show The Big Debate where a woman tries to defend a gender non-binary person. The problem is, the woman calls the non-binary person 'she' because, to all intents and purposes, the person is female. She looks and sounds female, yet claims 'they' are not female.

 

It's a load of fetid dingos kidneys, because not even the feminist/LGBTQ community can mind their Ps & Qs when it comes to dealing with these people.

 

 

At 5.50, the argument basically falls down...