Gender Fluid etc, Opinions?

[melthebell]

It has nothing to do with the UK or Sheffield. Hence why it's in the general section

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We could just let people use whichever set of facilities they feel is appropriate for them.

 

We could ......but I strongly believe we should not and would not let my children use them or any child for which I had any responsibility.

 

Nor do I respect your self perceived right to put children in your care at risk.

 

Unisex changing rooms put women at danger of sexual assault, data reveals

 

besides if you allow mixed changing and toilet facilities how long will it be before normal people no longer have a choice when the single sex facilities are replaced.

 

as its sometimes best to explain yourself in advance of the PC brigade's inevitable misunderstandings

 

btw before someone whinges i am using the oxford english dictionary definition of normal. coupled with my own personal belief to which i am entitled that with the exception of a few hermaphrodites all other people are either male or female.

 

as i'm concerned the gender binary, also referred to as gender binarism is the classification of sex and gender into two distinct, opposite and disconnected forms of masculine and feminine.

[Ontarian1981]

Not been following this thread so I am just posting as per topic title. Two weeks ago I was filling in some forms at a new therapist I am seeing and where it asked for Gender it added " check one box only" . I kid you not.

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Not been following this thread so I am just posting as per topic title. Two weeks ago I was filling in some forms at a new therapist I am seeing and where it asked for Gender it added " check one box only" . I kid you not.

 

no trouble believing that..... the world has been going mad for a long time now.

[truman]

We could ......but I strongly believe we should not and would not let my children use them or any child for which I had any responsibility.

 

 

So if you go swimming with your young son and daughter logistically what would you do?

[Halibut]

 

as i'm concerned the gender binary, also referred to as gender binarism is the classification of sex and gender into two distinct, opposite and disconnected forms of masculine and feminine.

 

Most people these days regard that concept as old fashioned, unhelpful and innacurate, but you're free to cling onto it if you wish.

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Most people these days regard that concept as old fashioned, unhelpful and innacurate, but you're free to cling onto it if you wish.

 

The fashionability of it is irrelevent .... However ..It is accurate .. with extremely few exceptions humans are physically male or female.

 

What some humans perceive themselves to be mentally if different from the norm is entirely their own business and not something I would want or need to get involved with discussion or argument about. And that is a choice I am still free to make.

[Cyclone]

So why exactly ARE you involved in a discussion about it?

 

And in fact you seem to be quite prepared to impose your opinion on other people, post #1402, where you've unilaterally decided that letting people use the appropriate facility is somehow a danger to children and that I shouldn't be allowed to put children in danger.

A pretty big leap if ever I saw one.

 

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We could ......but I strongly believe we should not and would not let my children use them or any child for which I had any responsibility.

 

I don't recognise your self perceived right to determine that letting people use whichever facility they find appropriate is dangerous.

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So why exactly ARE you involved in a discussion about it?

 

And in fact you seem to be quite prepared to impose your opinion on other people, post #1402, where you've unilaterally decided that letting people use the appropriate facility is somehow a danger to children and that I shouldn't be allowed to put children in danger.

A pretty big leap if ever I saw one.

 

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Again you misunderstand ..do you not read then think before passing a comment.

I am against the provisdion of and against people using an INAPPROPRITE FACILITY.

I don't recognise your self perceived right to determine that letting people use whichever facility they find appropriate is dangerous.

 

why would you think that i would care about that?

 

but allowing children to use an INAPPROPRIATE FACILTY is potentially more dangerous than allowing them to use an appropriate one and is therefore could be construed as neglect.

 

BTW i am voicing my opinion and am willing to justify it and not in anyway trying to impose it on anyone

 

in regard to the acusation of me trying to impose my opinion... have you ever retrospectfully read any of your own posts with an open mind?

[Cyclone]

Why do you think that anyone cares about your opinion?

 

How have you managed to move onto children? Children, particularly the younger end of the spectrum, use whichever facility is appropriate for the parent they're with... So I think you're onto a loser with that one.

You are most definitely trying to impose it, what did you think you were doing with statements about neglecting children and that you don't think other people have the right to do something... Those are both statements about the control of other peoples behaviour.

 

You've also invented a strawman, you're (apparently now) arguing against people using an inappropriate facility, but the posts you argued against were actually about allowing people to choose for themselves the APPROPRIATE facility.

By inference what you actually mean is that you get to decide what facility is appropriate and the opinion of the person in question isn't relevant.

Your entire argument is about your opinion taking precedence and how people should behave in the way that you think is correct.