Halibut Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 It may do when it comes to which type of prison they'll be placed. We already have situations where transgender prisoners - for example MtF - want to be moved to a women's prison. So, what, we now have to open trans prisons because trans prisoners will be uncomfortable being in gendered ones? Why not just allow the MtoF transexual to go to the women's prison? ---------- Post added 07-09-2018 at 16:16 ---------- I can see how a FtM trans person wouldn't want to be placed in a male prison, but, by having now transitioned, they are no longer female... Why do you think someone F to M wouldn't want to be in a male prison? I can't see why they wouldn't. But, then, gender is a man-made construct, so just do away with gendered prisons and let ALL criminals mingle, regardless of which of the 1001 genders there supposedly are. You're just being silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Why not just allow the MtoF transexual to go to the women's prison?. Is this relevant? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7197153/transgender-rapist-women-inmates-in-jail/ The report is also on other news media platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Is this relevant? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7197153/transgender-rapist-women-inmates-in-jail/ The report is also on other news media platforms. It's difficult to comment without access to all of the facts, but it certainly looks like a failure to conduct proper risk assessment to me. I think the issue is more to do with the perpetrator being a rapist than identifying as a women - in other words a M to F transexual in jail for mortgage fraud or burglary would probably be fine in a women's prison. Rapists, especially pre-surgery rapists, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Why not just allow the MtoF transexual to go to the women's prison? ---------- Post added 07-09-2018 at 16:16 ---------- Why do you think someone F to M wouldn't want to be in a male prison? I can't see why they wouldn't. You're just being silly now. Err , because they are MEN . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Why are there more genders, yet schools are banning skirts and tight trousers? Is it just the UK that has a gender problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Why not just allow the MtoF transexual to go to the women's prison? ---------- Post added 07-09-2018 at 16:16 ---------- Why do you think someone F to M wouldn't want to be in a male prison? I can't see why they wouldn't. You're just being silly now. Because, barring one key part of the anatomy, they will still biologically be male. It is basically the beginning of mixed gendered prisons because that's what it is. Why would someone prefer to be in a female prison? Well, listening to the feminist rhetoric about toxic masculinity and men are pretty much all rapists (especially white men) and violent... why wouldn't people want to be in a female prison? And you can say I'm being silly, but the feminist/LGBTQUIGHT+ community are the ones claiming that gender is a state of mind and upbringing. That's why we're now seeing the first 'theybies' - babies being born and not being 'assigned' a gender on their birth certificate because the parents don't want to force gender stereotypes on their child. Also, apparently in some places, white men can't be ambassadors for diversity, even if they are actually trans women: https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/10/students-transgender-woman-cant-be-diversity-officer-because-shes-white-man-now/ Edited September 11, 2018 by leviathan13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Because, barring one key part of the anatomy, they will still biologically be male. It is basically the beginning of mixed gendered prisons because that's what it is. A post-op M to F person - who is (as far as they are concerned a woman), living as a woman, looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman. Why should she not be in a women's prison again? Do you think a men's prison would be a safe and appropriate place? Would you be willing to insist that such a person is imprisoned with men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 A post-op M to F person - who is (as far as they are concerned a woman), living as a woman, looks like a woman, dresses like a woman and behaves like a woman. Why should she not be in a women's prison again? Do you think a men's prison would be a safe and appropriate place? Would you be willing to insist that such a person is imprisoned with men? I'd be more inclined to be more satisgied with that... but i'd still have questions about testosterone levels as if, for example, they kicked off, there's a good chance they would have a greater ability through physical strength to harm a female. Along the lines of allowing trans 'women' to compete in female sporting competitions. The only two ways of sorting this out are don't commit a crime in the first place and have non-gendered prisons. If it's a particularly horrendous crime, i couldn't care less what happened to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The only two ways of sorting this out are don't commit a crime in the first place and have non-gendered prisons. There goes that narrow, reductionist thinking again - of course there are more ways than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I'd be more inclined to be more satisgied with that... but i'd still have questions about testosterone levels as if, for example, they kicked off, there's a good chance they would have a greater ability through physical strength to harm a female. Along the lines of allowing trans 'women' to compete in female sporting competitions. The only two ways of sorting this out are don't commit a crime in the first place and have non-gendered prisons. If it's a particularly horrendous crime, i couldn't care less what happened to them. you do know we arent talking about Charles Bronson deciding to stick on a dress dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now