Branyy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Is there anything Trump could do that would make you stop loving him? On that note, is there anything Trump could do that would make you stop hating him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) On that note, is there anything Trump could do that would make you stop hating him? Become a decent human being? ---------- Post added 16-07-2018 at 21:58 ---------- Some are asking just what has Putin got on Trump. I think it's probably finance related, no US banks would loan to him back in the day. Edited July 16, 2018 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I think it's probably finance related, no US banks would loan to him back in the day. It is finance related and it is the Russian oligarchs who hold the key. Putin may portray himself as some kind of post modern emporer but he himself is in hock to the oligarchs. Putin's grasp on power isn't as iron fisted as people make out. He is there courtesy of a very fragile alliance of vested interests. Trump is just a useful distraction. Look at Putin today. He wasn't elated with Trump's sycophancy he was completely disinterested. As soon as the 'useful idiot' ceases to be useful, he'll be fed to the wolves by the Russians and news organisations worldwide will be re running today's statements ad infinitum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) It is finance related and it is the Russian oligarchs who hold the key. Putin, when asked if he had any dirt on Trump refused to directly say he hadn't. Later revised to some wishy washy "he wasn't of interest" Fox News White House correspondent John Roberts said "There is a growing consensus across the land tonight ... that the president threw the United States under the bus" http://theweek.com/speedreads/785243/watch-fox-news-reporters-scold-trump-throwing-under-bus Fake news? ---------- Post added 17-07-2018 at 10:57 ---------- http://theweek.com/speedreads/785261/new-york-daily-news-hits-trump-hard-open-treason-front-page .. Ouch! Edited July 17, 2018 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I was listening to radio four last night, they were saying that there are talks about kicking Trump(USA) out of the World Trade Organisation(WTO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) Americans are paranoid about communism and Russia. They are fed a constant diet of 'we're the good guys, the Russians are evil <removed>. On this, they are one of the most brainwashed nations on earth. Surely the truth is somewhere in between. Edited July 17, 2018 by nikki-red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Never mind Republican outrage, it would be interesting to know how this plays out with Trumps core supporters. Most have spent their whole lives being told that Russia is the enemy (remember Reagan's 'evil empire' comments.) Even the dumbest of Trump's supporters must be thinking 'that don't look very 'America First' to me.' It is often said that regardless of how stupid Trumps comments and Tweets are, they are not meant for us but for his core supporters. His comments yesterday were definitely for a Russian audience. I suspect he doesn't actually know what and how much Putin has on him, just that they have something. I wonder how soon we will see our first Trump rally when veterans start booing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Never mind Republican outrage, it would be interesting to know how this plays out with Trumps core supporters. Easy, go to Breitbart and read the comments. They're fully in lockstep and spinning it as if only Democrats are upset. Entirely detached from reality. The irony that they're at least if not more fundamental than any terror organisation is completely lost on them I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Further evidence - as if it were needed - that Trump is an idiot and a dangerous one. He sides with Putin rather than the US security services and describes the EU as a foe. I can't really imagine where or when this lunacy will end, but I'm pretty sure it will end badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 I’m totally ambivalent towards Trump I really can't understand how any reasonably intelligent human being can adopt that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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