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[L00b]

6 minutes ago, Nightbird said:

Don't perpetuate racial stereotypes and bleat about racism. 

QED

 

Edited July 16, 2019 by L00b

[Top Cats Hat]

2 minutes ago, Nightbird said:

Don't perpetuate racial stereotypes and bleat about racism. 

Who on earth is perpetuating racial stereotypes?

[JamesR123]

2 hours ago, L00b said:

Standard obfuscating tactic, as used by JamesR123 yesterday: make up a strawman with the aim of accusing the poster objecting to the latest hard right dog whistle (Trump's tweet, here), of being a racist because (according to the strawman argument-) they're using or condoning a racist term.

I didn't strawman you at all.  I was getting straw manned constantly (not particularly by you).

 

I said that I would have no issue telling a foreign criminal to go back to their country.  Most people wouldn't.

 

You read that and saw all migrants are criminals.  This was a leap your mind made, not mine.  I suggested that this was revealing of your prejudices and asked you to do some research on crime rates of immigrants vs natives.

[L00b]

59 minutes ago, JamesR123 said:

I didn't strawman you at all.  I was getting straw manned constantly (not particularly by you).

 

I said that I would have no issue telling a foreign criminal to go back to their country.  Most people wouldn't.

 

You read that and saw all migrants are criminals.  This was a leap your mind made, not mine.  I suggested that this was revealing of your prejudices and asked you to do some research on crime rates of immigrants vs natives.

Your posts and mine about this are plain and clear, only a couple of pages back: you equated social nuisance with crimes in the specific case of foreign-born people (rather than limiting yourself to foreign-born criminals), as justification for telling them to go back to their country. I called you out about it. You've been trying to distance yourself from your opinion ever since, just like in this latest post of yours.

 

As for my "prejudices", even if your joining date did not feature under your user name, it's quite clear you've not been here long. Bless.

[JamesR123]

4 minutes ago, L00b said:

Your posts and mine about this are plain and clear, only a couple of pages back: you equated social nuisance with crimes in the specific case of foreign-born people (rather than limiting yourself to foreign-born criminals), as justification for telling them to go back to their country. I called you out about it. You've been trying to distance yourself from your opinion ever since, just like in this latest post of yours.

 

As for my "prejudices", even if your joining date did not feature under your user name, it's quite clear you've not been here long. Bless.

My post clearly said that I would happily ask foreign born people to leave if they commited a crime.  I made no such equivalence as the one you are accusing me of.  You made the equivalence and I called you out.

 

You revealed your own prejudice.  I am the son of an immigrant.

 

I am unsure as to the relevance of my joining date tbh. 

[Longcol]

3 hours ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Who on earth is perpetuating racial stereotypes?

Donald Trump.

[I1L2T3]

35 minutes ago, JamesR123 said:

My post clearly said that I would happily ask foreign born people to leave if they commited a crime.  I made no such equivalence as the one you are accusing me of.  You made the equivalence and I called you out.

 

You revealed your own prejudice.  I am the son of an immigrant.

 

I am unsure as to the relevance of my joining date tbh. 

Nope initially you did not use the context of them having committed a crime. That was one of the most striking things about your argument. Now you’re backtracking.

Edited July 16, 2019 by I1L2T3

[Top Cats Hat]

2 hours ago, JamesR123 said:

I said that I would have no issue telling a foreign criminal to go back to their country.  Most people wouldn't.

OK then. Let’s clear this up once and for all.

 

What crimes did the four democratic congresswomen commit?

[L00b]

1 hour ago, JamesR123 said:

My post clearly said that I would happily ask foreign born people to leave if they commited a crime.  I made no such equivalence as the one you are accusing me of.  You made the equivalence and I called you out.

I'm very happy to let thread readers be the judge of that. Your own Post 3546:

On 15 July 2019 at 14:53, JamesR123 said:

(...)

 

Not at all.  Have any party you are aware of made it policy that people can't suggest that foreign born  people go back home?

 

I would do it if someone was committing serious crimes, or being a social nuisance.

Your own post, your own opinion, your equivalence of social nuisance with serious crimes in the specific context of foreign-born people (highlighted for convenience). Own your <removed>.

 

1 hour ago, JamesR123 said:

You revealed your own prejudice.  I am the son of an immigrant.

 

I am unsure as to the relevance of my joining date tbh. 

What does your parentage have to do with it? Let me guess: you're trying to claim the moral high ground with it?

 

I am an immigrant myself, it is a very well-known fact to older posters, whence the relevance of your joining date.

Edited July 16, 2019 by L00b
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[Top Cats Hat]

1 hour ago, JamesR123 said:

I am unsure as to the relevance of my joining date tbh. 

There have been quite a number of right-wing posters appearing and disappearing on this site recently. You can usually tell who they are by their syntax but your rather bizarre posting style makes me suspect that you are either genuinely new or were here before I joined in 2017.