Annie Bynnol Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Branyy said: I KNOW what Trump said. I THINK I understood him. I'M NOT going to claim that I KNOW what he meant. If someone comes with a self-interpretation of his words, I'm becoming very skeptical. Especially when they're trying to quote words which he didn't even say. So you only "... THINK (you) understand him." which implies that there is at least a possibility that your own "...self-interpretation of his words..." is incorrect. So you are not claiming "... that (you) KNOW what he meant.." which implies that there is at least a possibility that others genuinely do have rational interpretations. Since Trump avoids issuing written statements, seems unable to read the script in front of him and rambles and digresses and fails to construct sentences it is inevitable that we all get differing messages- including what is he is getting at when he speaks of malaria tablet, bright lights, disinfecting and supporting similar views to gun bearing vigilanties . He, as president of his country, must accept his responsibility that his outpourings are interpreted by some in ways that could be harmful to them. Edited May 4, 2020 by Annie Bynnol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: So you only "... THINK (you) understand him." which implies that there is at least a possibility that your own "...self-interpretation of his words..." is incorrect. So you are not claiming "... that (you) KNOW what he meant.." which implies that there is at least a possibility that others genuinely do have rational interpretations. Since Trump avoids issuing written statements, seems unable to read the script in front of him and rambles and digresses and fails to construct sentences it is inevitable that we all get differing messages- including what is he is getting at when he speaks of malaria tablet, bright lights, disinfecting and supporting similar views to gun bearing vigilanties . He, as president of his country, must accept his responsibility that his outpourings are interpreted by some in ways that could be harmful to them. This is a great article that I read today. https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/05/14/vector-in-chief/ “Trump returns to what has worked for him before. As the cost of his terrible failures of public duty and common decency becomes ever more starkly evident, he will revert in his reelection campaign to an explanation of the disaster, not as a consequence of his own incompetence and contempt but as a punishment inflicted on the United States for its failure to build his wall, keep out foreigners, and crush the enemy within. Like a medieval quack making a profit in times of plague, he will offer a stricken people an ever higher dose of a toxic cure.“ Edited May 4, 2020 by Mister Gee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Halibut said: Behave - he's clearly the worst public speaker ever to occupy the White House, by a country mile. In recent times, yes. Historically, I don't know, I haven't heard all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Annie Bynnol said: So you only "... THINK (you) understand him." which implies that there is at least a possibility that your own "...self-interpretation of his words..." is incorrect. So you are not claiming "... that (you) KNOW what he meant.." which implies that there is at least a possibility that others genuinely do have rational interpretations. Yes, exactly. My interpretation might be incorrect. However, I'm not pushing my interpretation to anyone! And I'm certainly not making up some words and inserting them into original statements just to support my interpretation! The conclusion is - he didn't explicitly say that. You may THINK he meant it, but you CAN'T KNOW. Therefore, saying that he meant it for sure, is FALSE. Unless you bring some evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said: He, as president of his country, must accept his responsibility that his outpourings are interpreted by some in ways that could be harmful to them. Him and his co-President are picking on China, we should just hope that things dont escalate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Branyy said: Yes, exactly. My interpretation might be incorrect. However, I'm not pushing my interpretation to anyone! And I'm certainly not making up some words and inserting them into original statements just to support my interpretation! The conclusion is - he didn't explicitly say that. You may THINK he meant it, but you CAN'T KNOW. Therefore, saying that he meant it for sure, is FALSE. Unless you bring some evidence. I have not quoted Trump, accurately or inaccurately, I have not attached meaning to his ramblings as I don't think anyone can, I don't know why you assumed that . I have expressed the opinion that he gives out such a confusing messages when he speaks of malaria tablets, bright lights, disinfecting and supporting similar views to gun bearing vigilanties and that he must take responsibility for his outpourings as they can be interpreted by some in ways that could be harmful to them. His inability to lead his country through this crisis cannot be defended by nit picking over his unintelligible ramblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-storms-out-after-22011619 The racist president again finding it hard to hide his true colours. Unable to give an appropriate response from a journalist, who he had invited to ask a question! Throwing his toys out from his pram as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Fisk said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-storms-out-after-22011619 The racist president again finding it hard to hide his true colours. Unable to give an appropriate response from a journalist, who he had invited to ask a question! Throwing his toys out from his pram as usual. What a vile specimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Halibut said: What a vile specimen. True. He has divided America even more than it was and his small minded followers will continue to back him, despite his incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Umm, is this considered racist just because the reporter was Chinese (or looked Chinese)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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