Anna B Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: No, he lied through his teeth at nearly every turn and a thick American public voted him into the White house again. To top it off, they've also voted in a congresswoman who totally, publicly buys into the whole QAnon thing - Its utter lunacy. Am I surprised? Not a bit! Boris lied through his teeth, and the British public voted him in.... see any similarities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box11 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Anna B said: Not necessarily. Trump may win for the same reasons politics has gone skew whiff everywhere - shear bloodymindedness. The people are sick of the Establishment running the show, and resent being told what to do by the Media. Come on Anna B... Trump is part of the establishment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Box11 said: Come on Anna B... Trump is part of the establishment.... And they're being told by fox news. And breitbart. Etc. People are stupid, people are selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Better morning than evening. Biden ahead in Nevada and likely to stay that way. The urban areas of Wisconsin are reporting in and Trump's lead is toast. Biden should head further ahead as Green Bay and Madison votes get tallied. Milwauke area gave Biden a 140,000 boost. So from being 100,000 down statewide ,he leads Similar scene in Michigan,a Trump lead being whittled away. In the other races it's entire possible Georgia and PA will also follow the pattern. 1.9 million votes to come from PA count will not be complete before Friday according to election officer on NPR The mail ins in PA are running 82% to Biden so far. Edited November 4, 2020 by butlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Got that wrong. Ballots should be done by Thursday evening in PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Box11 said: Come on Anna B... Trump is part of the establishment.... Interesting. I know what you mean; multi-millionaire businessman etc etc. should be part of the establishment, but he isn't. He doesn't fit in, doesn't play the game their way, shoots his mouth off etc, and doesn't give a f*** He's uncontrollable. (bit like Corbyn.) That makes him a threat to the cosy club that is the establishment. Edited November 4, 2020 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Anna B said: Interesting. I know what you mean; multi-millionaire businessman etc etc. should be part of the establishment, but he isn't. He doesn't fit in, doesn't play the game their way, shoots his mouth off etc, and doesn't give a f*** He's uncontrollble. That makes him a threat to the cosy club that is the establishment. Of course he plays the game - that's why he pays sod all in taxes. He's not taxed the rich (tax cuts actually) binned Obama-care (and given the diets of most trump voters, you'd think they'd be all for free healthcare) - he's done sod all, with the exception of maybe (and it's because I don't know enough) the economy, but I'm not sure how much of that was his policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, tinfoilhat said: Of course he plays the game - that's why he pays sod all in taxes. He's not taxed the rich (tax cuts actually) binned Obama-care (and given the diets of most trump voters, you'd think they'd be all for free healthcare) - he's done sod all, with the exception of maybe (and it's because I don't know enough) the economy, but I'm not sure how much of that was his policies. So, considering he has been constantly rubbished in the media as an idiot, and is Republican, what do you think his attraction is, especially to the blue collar workers? This should have been a walk in the park for Biden. Why is it turning into such a close race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Anna B said: Interesting. I know what you mean; multi-millionaire businessman etc etc. should be part of the establishment, but he isn't. He doesn't fit in, doesn't play the game their way, shoots his mouth off etc, and doesn't give a f*** He's uncontrollable. (bit like Corbyn.) That makes him a threat to the cosy club that is the establishment. so why is Trump successful but JC wasnt given you are saying the same things about the media representation of Donald that you say about JC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Anna B said: So, considering he has been constantly rubbished in the media as an idiot, and is Republican, what do you think his attraction is, especially to the blue collar workers? This should have been a walk in the park for Biden. Why is it turning into such a close race? Ignorance, husbanded by populist tropes, turbo-charged by social media. In the US as much as elsewhere (miscellaneously and in no particular order) : UK, Russia, Brazil, Philippines, Hungary, Poland*... It's never been easier to get masses to vote against their best interests. The US vote for Trump, after the last 4 years, is all the evidence you'd ever need for that truism. (* Poland might just be turning a corner at last, that said, seeing how Polish women are currently forcing the government to u-turn on the abortion ban) EDIT: and as for the walk in the park/close race...if Biden wins the election by 1 electoral college vote, guess what? He's the next US president and it's mission accomplished, is what Edited November 4, 2020 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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