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6 minutes ago, Anna B said:

That doesn't explain why he got a lot of votes from all ethnicities according to TV pundits. I haven't seen a lot of support for him on facebook, but I haven't been looking for it so I wouldn't know.

 

I didn't see his rant, but I can imagine he wasn't happy, and went way over the top.

 

But if you believe votes can't be fraudulantly obtained / counted and discounted, bought and sold, these days (in any country, not just USA) then I think you're being a bit naive to be honest (-which a lot of politicians aren't.) There's never usually any evidence because that's what the secret service is for.

I mention this not because I wanted him to win, but because politics worldwide need a major clean up.

 

Yes it does - and I did that in another post. He cleaned up alot of the Cuban vote in Florida because a section of Cubans equate socialism (free healthcare) with communism and therefore Castro. He'll do well in the border states because of immigration, second generation immigrants can be really keen on pulling up the ladder. And you can have black people and Jewish people and Asian people who earn over $400k not want to pay more tax - that's probably a more significant number than we both realise. There will be many more who "think" they'll be earning more soon.

 

And stupid people. So many many many stupid people of which he is the embodiment. And the secret service nicking votes?? That's bonkers even for you. Please say you don't subscribe to QAnon nonsense either.

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But if the border states

California  and Nevada are Dem.

Texas is increasingly Democratic might well flip next election

The Republicans had a big inquest after the 2008 (?) election and laid out where inevitably the party of angry old white men was heading.

 

 

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18 hours ago, West 77 said:

I support much of what Trump tried to do. However, after he decided to get into the back of a car while supposedly suffering from Covid-19 to wave at his supporters outside the military hospital I felt he didn't deserve to get re-elected. 

I'll say one thing I'm glad Trump did, and that was get the warmonger John Bolton out of the white house.

 

JB was itching to bomb Iran and from what I read, was moving DT in to that situation.

 

Let's hope Bolton doesn't return under the new president.

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12 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

I'll say one thing I'm glad Trump did, and that was get the warmonger John Bolton out of the white house.

 

JB was itching to bomb Iran and from what I read, was moving DT in to that situation.

 

Let's hope Bolton doesn't return under the new president.

Bolton won't come back but there is never a shortage of hawks in the white house. My hope is that Biden doesn't resort to proxy wars to establish America's reputation.

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

That doesn't explain why he got a lot of votes from all ethnicities according to TV pundits. I haven't seen a lot of support for him on facebook, but I haven't been looking for it so I wouldn't know.

 

I didn't see his rant, but I can imagine he wasn't happy, and went way over the top.

 

But if you believe votes can't be fraudulantly obtained / counted and discounted, bought and sold, these days (in any country, not just USA) then I think you're being a bit naive to be honest (-which a lot of politicians aren't.) There's never usually any evidence because that's what the secret service is for.

I mention this not because I wanted him to win, but because politics worldwide need a major clean up.

 

Its really not.

 

I guess you've read reply 4745 from the friend in Missouri.

A basic experience of human nature reveals it to be true. I particularly like.....

51 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Look at the issue with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature, and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal.

If you buy into the American Dream and believe that 'Might is Right', 'The weakest go to the wall', 'Never let a sucker win' and many, many others its all quite logical. The left need to  recognise the truth and appeal of these slogans and move on to is how to counter them.  Back in the day the left had slogans too - 'Workers of the world unite, you only have your chains to loose',  'There's no I in team',  'United we stand devided we fall' and even the wokish  'For the many not the few'.

 

Its slogan politics and its needed as a vital part of a bigger picture but not as a replacement for ideology and a manifesto

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31 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Bolton won't come back but there is never a shortage of hawks in the white house. My hope is that Biden doesn't resort to proxy wars to establish America's reputation.

Yes that is one fear...

 

I was thinking, can a new President elect  former one as VP.

 

Could Biden put Obama as his VP??

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Trump advisor Steve Bannon has been banned from Twitter for calling for the beheading of Dr Anthony Fauci:

 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ex-trump-adviser-steve-bannon-banned-from-twitter-over-beheading-call/ar-BB1aL68R?ocid=msedgntp

 

just wow :wow:

Extremists show their real faces when the backs against the wall

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