cuttsie Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, trastrick said: Good chance I would have been there at 8 pm Saturday night, hoping my date would show up. Wednesdays and Fridays, it was the Embassy ballroom after a couple of pints in the Elm Tree. I would have been underneath you in the snooker hole ,hustling for Woodbines and watching out for little Tom the snooker oil keeper who would wang you with a shortened cue for dropping Ash on the green . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 hours ago, m williamson said: ... The idea that someone has to transform themselves into a reasonable person in order to achieve success in politics - American politics especially - is ludicrous. ... For the Republican Party, firmly attached to Trump's flacid corpulence, some might say that it's the opposite that's essential; though with the grifting cynicism required for hanging on to power and keeping the dollars flowing, the more gaudily nasty facades will likely flake off like fake tan in the shower once Trump starts circling the drain. Or at least get swapped for another. Just ask Biden fan Trump fan Lindsey Graham. Speaking of white supremacists, it's lovely to see Trump cosying up to Laura Loomer, someone who Marjorie Taylor Greene calls - apparently with no trace of irony - 'mentally unstable and a documented liar'. A perfect fit then, I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) a 12 hours ago, m williamson said: Your explanation requires him to come up with a cunning plan, go on record with his mea culpa, alienate his former colleagues and friends, form new alliances with people who he fundamentally disagrees with and live a lie for the rest of his life without knowing whether or not it would work. Pure nonsense with a heaping of misinformation to boot! It worked alright. He had a 51 year career as one of the highest echelon leaders of the Democrat Party, feted by Obama, Hillary and Biden at his funeral, and is still considered a Democrat Icon, by people like you. He was a POLITICIAN! All politicians lie! Do you know any bank robbers, that wouldn't renounce crime and say "I'm sorry", if he could get to be running the banks for 51 years? A very wealthy man indeed! With LOTS of friends! I'm done here. You get the last word! Edited August 18, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Course Trump broke bread with noted anti semites Kanye West and Nick Fuentes. Fuentes being a holocaust denier. " Best people" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, butlers said: Course Trump broke bread with noted anti semites Kanye West and Nick Fuentes. Fuentes being a holocaust denier. " Best people" He broke bread with many people, All politicians do. "President Biden raised eyebrows during his trip to Ohio when he reminisced about his time in the Senate when he broke bread with "real segregationists." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, trastrick said: He broke bread with many people, All politicians do. So, in essence, you're now claiming your posts re: Byrd, were basically a load of baseless, bitter, ill-informed guff... who knew! 🤣 Oh dear, looks like that dossier that will completely exonerate Trump, isn't going to appear afterall... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4157906-trump-calls-off-planned-news-conference-to-push-election-fraud-claims/ Imagine my surprise! 🤣 Edited August 18, 2023 by Magilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m williamson Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, trastrick said: a Pure nonsense with a heaping of misinformation to boot! It worked alright. He had a 51 year career as one of the highest echelon leaders of the Democrat Party, feted by Obama, Hillary and Biden at his funeral, and is still considered a Democrat Icon, by people like you. He was a POLITICIAN! All politicians lie! Do you know any bank robbers, that wouldn't renounce crime and say "I'm sorry", if he could get to be running the banks for 51 years? A very wealthy man indeed! With LOTS of friends! I'm done here. You get the last word! The Americans elected Trump, an execrable, obnoxious, racist, misogynist, lying piece of excrement, there's no need to be a goody two shoes in American politics. Your view of Byrd would require convoluted machinations and a lifetime of living a lie for no good reason. Thanks, I'll take the last word, at least it makes some sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) According to most Republicans and conservatives, (but not all ) the U.S. electorate would like to see a Biden vs Trump rematch in 2024. It is apparent that the Democrats are not as enthusiastic about that scenario, and indeed are doing everything they can to prevent it The voters appear to agree. They have the two de facto leaders of their respective parties, running neck and neck in national polls. Democrat prosecutors and their very serious charges against the Republican leader, the Biden Administration's inclinations to investigate Trump and his associates, while apparently overlooking and even covering up, equally serious charges against Biden and his associates, together with decidedly anti-Trump Media, may well be the deciding factor, as to if that will happen. The Courts will hopefully be seen as non partial, but that's a forlorn hope, if they do not have the opportunity to hear from Prosecutors any serious charges against Democrats. This Uncivil War, could break out into a hot war at some point, if there is a majority who believe that the system is rigged! NEWSWEEK A Biden Vs. Trump Rematch Is What Voters Want "the ideas each man represents are still hotly contested. If they are the nominees, it will be because each of the two men remain the leading choice as the most apt representative of their respective basket of ideas. In this light, 2024-as-rematch is not some failure of civics, a tired re-run set up by an electorate unable to move on. It is instead a sorely needed litigation of a contest still in motion, with a nation at stake". https://www.newsweek.com/biden-vs-trump-rematch-what-voters-want-opinion-1819624 Edited August 19, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 A constitutional scholar, gives a cse for the defense! The Hill The disqualification of Donald Trump and other legal urban legends "The popularity of urban legends is a testament to the will to believe. The desire of people to keep Elvis alive or prove that a Sasquatch could exist furtively in our backyards shows the resilience of fables. "Constitutional urban legends often have an even more immediate appeal and tend to arise out of the desperation of divided times. One of the most popular today is that former President Donald Trump can be barred from office, even if he is not convicted in any of the four indictments he faces, under a long-dormant clause of the 14th Amendment"........ Read more: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4158573-the-disqualification-of-donald-trump-and-other-legal-urban-legends/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, trastrick said: A constitutional scholar, gives a cse for the defense! He'd get a fail for that CSE. Just like you failed to mention that Turley is a frequent Fox News contributor who apparently vanished down a right-wing rabbit hole years ago: What Happened to Jonathan Turley, Really? Quote Some years ago, academics and legal and political commentators began joining in a lament that eventually became a kind of trope: “What the heck has happened to Jonathan Turley?” The sad refrain recalled that George Washington University law professor Turley was once a serious and respected legal scholar—a civil libertarian who often constructively criticized liberal cant –and then observed that he had turned his energy into appearing all over the media, but especially welcomed the chance to be on Fox News. Turley, who acknowledges that he is a paid Fox News contributor, began to regularly pop up on the Fox shows that purport to be journalistic, but also the clownishly right-wing Fox & Friends in the morning and then the demagogic right-wing propaganda evening programming. He presented himself as a kind of Alan Dershowitz with table manners—his stance was that of one of the last remaining “principled liberals” speaking truth to leftist power. Jonathan Turley Brings Flair For Blatantly Misstating Basic Legal Concepts To The Trump Indictment Quote The latest indictment of Donald Trump and his cronies alleges a widespread criminal enterprise to overturn the legitimate results of the Georgia election. And whenever Trump finds himself on the wrong end of the law — an increasingly common event — Fox News is there to soothe any cognitive dissonance its Law & Order audience might feel about Glorious Leader. This morning, they brought on MAGA pullstring toy Jonathan Turley to explain why the whole prosecution is fake news. The indictment is “troubling” to Turley on a lot of levels but mostly because it criminalizes speech. Sort of. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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