Vrsaljko Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 9 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: Trump is Volatile which equals unstable and unsafe. IMO It's also a great deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 hour ago, RollingJ said: What has this apology for a human got to do with UK politics? Somebody started a Trump thread. Clearly labeled as such? Ask the moderator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 39 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: It's also a great deterrent. And a great opportunity for Putin, Orban and Kim Jong Un who he admires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrsaljko Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 6 minutes ago, Longcol said: And a great opportunity for Putin, Orban and Kim Jong Un who he admires. Eh? You mean like how Putin didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was in office, then did it once Biden took office? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 12 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: Eh? You mean like how Putin didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was in office, then did it once Biden took office? Given Trump had signed an a treaty in 2020 for the Taliban to take over Afghanistan, perhaps other dictators saw the way clear for their own designs. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrsaljko Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Just now, Longcol said: Given Trump had signed an a treaty in 2020 for the Taliban to take over Afghanistan, perhaps other dictators saw the way clear for their own designs. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members There's reaching, and then there's that. He didn't sign a treaty for the Taliban to take over Afghanistan either. It was an agreement to bring the war in Afghanistan to an end, which was going to have to happen at some point anyway. It was inevitable the Taliban would regain control once the US finally withdrew. It's just a shame that Biden made a right pig's ear of it and left the Taliban loads of military equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 2 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: There's reaching, and then there's that. He didn't sign a treaty for the Taliban to take over Afghanistan either. It was an agreement to bring the war in Afghanistan to an end, which was going to have to happen at some point anyway. It was inevitable the Taliban would regain control once the US finally withdrew The Bush administration hung on later than the deadline agreed by Trump. Team Trump's ties with Putin are well documented - just one example; https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrsaljko Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 3 minutes ago, Longcol said: Team Trump's ties with Putin are well documented - just one example; https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties So well documented that even the FBI couldn't find any proof after an official investigation which lasted years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 20 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: There's reaching, and then there's that. He didn't sign a treaty for the Taliban to take over Afghanistan either. It was an agreement to bring the war in Afghanistan to an end, which was going to have to happen at some point anyway. It was inevitable the Taliban would regain control once the US finally withdrew. It's just a shame that Biden made a right pig's ear of it and left the Taliban loads of military equipment. Attacks by the Taliban intensified straight after the US withdrawal agreement. Remind me what Trump did................... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal#:~:text=The Agreement for Bringing Peace,2001–2021 war in Afghanistan. Resumption of insurgency[edit] See also: 6 March 2020 Kabul shooting, Kabul gurdwara attack, May 2020 Afghanistan attacks, June 2020 Afghanistan attacks, July 2020 Afghanistan attacks, August 2020 Afghanistan attacks, September 2020 Afghanistan attacks, October 2020 Afghanistan attacks, and Russian bounty program After the signing of the US–Taliban deal on February 29, 2020, insurgent attacks against Afghan security forces surged. The Taliban resumed offensive operations against the Afghan army and police on March 3, 2020, conducting attacks in Kunduz and Helmand provinces.[49] On March 4, the US conducted airstrikes on Taliban fighters in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province.[50] However, in the aftermath of the agreement, the US stopped supporting the Afghan military in its offensive operations, forcing it to take mostly defensive positions around the country. According to the agreement, US military aircraft could not attack Taliban groups waiting more than 500 meters away, giving the Taliban an edge in targeting Afghan military units. The agreement also exacerbated the decline in morale of the Afghan army and police, making them more open to accepting bargains with the Taliban. Due to a lack of information and secret annexes in the agreement, that had not been shared even with the then Afghan government, the Taliban were able to spread propaganda and disinformation about the agreement, including convincing local police and military units that the US had handed over territories to the Taliban and that they should abandon their positions.[51] In the 45 days after the agreement (between March 1 and April 15, 2020), the Taliban conducted more than 4,500 attacks in Afghanistan, an increase of more than 70% compared to the same period in the previous year.[52] More than 900 Afghan security forces were killed in the period, up from about 520 in the same period a year earlier. Meanwhile, because of a significant reduction in the number of offensives and airstrikes by Afghan and US forces against the Taliban, Taliban casualties dropped to 610 in the period down from about 1,660 in the same period a year earlier. The Pentagon spokesman, Jonathan Hoffman, said that although the Taliban stopped conducting attacks against the US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan, the violence was still "unacceptably high" and "not conducive to a diplomatic solution." He added: "We have continued to do defensive attacks to help defend our partners in the area and we will continue to do that."[52] On June 22, 2020, Afghanistan reported its "bloodiest week in 19 years", during which 291 members of the ANSF were killed and 550 others wounded in 422 attacks carried out by the Taliban. At least 42 civilians, including women and children, were also killed and 105 others wounded by the Taliban across 18 provinces.[53] During the week, the Taliban kidnapped 60 civilians in the central province of Daykundi.[54] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 5 minutes ago, Vrsaljko said: So well documented that even the FBI couldn't find any proof after an official investigation which lasted years. Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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