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[Longcol]

19 hours ago, trastrick said:

 

 

Who knows what could be achieved with the $trillions spent on endless unwinnable foreign wars.

And the $trillions spent on "humanitarian aid"

 

More likely to have cut taxes for billionaires.

[trastrick]

12 hours ago, Longcol said:

 

More likely to have cut taxes for billionaires.

 

Simple answer!

 

Governments can raise taxes at will, on billionaires and everybody else if they so choose.

 

Let's assume that's the Income side of the equation solved (maybe🙂)

 

Now for the hard part!

 

Unless they stop throwing that income away on endless wars, and corrupt, sometimes hostile governments, and the numerous agencies, and so-called "non-profits" and "contractors" who actually run the very lucrative $billion dollar aid business, it's all to no avail.

 

You have more that half the countries in the world, sucking at the teat of the technically bankrupt West, year after year, and demanding ever more.

 

It's being used for arms, nuclear programmes anti -West indoctrination, even terrorism. In places like Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Cuba and the rest.

 

The EU just allocated $125 million in aid to Yemen, while the UK and the US are bombing the place! 😀

 

This madness is duplicated year after year by aid to Pakistan for flood (read Monsoon) relief, when they could be spending it on flood control, dams producing hydro-electric power, instead of their Nuclear Weapons programs.

 

The average voter has no concept of how the world actually works, and is apathetic about it, so it continues.

 

But put up the price of a pint, or the gas bill, and they get right snotty about it 😀

 

Unless of course, their income is directly or indirectly tied to the nanny state,  which runs the game, and is
"indexed", in which case, it's,  "I'm all right jack, what's your problem?"

 

 

[m williamson]

All you Trump fans out there, please do yourselves a favour and take a look at the video of his speech in Las Vegas to a crowd of 7,000.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BWyqFQ9w3Y

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh_Fo8XoS1A

 

The man is quite clearly unhinged, he's totally lost the plot. 

 

After having a look at that do come back and tell us how he is qualified to become the most powerful man in the world and how he  will  make a great president in his second term .

 

 

[Delbow]

I see Hunter Biden has been convicted on all counts in his trial. Does this confirm that the USA is a fascist state, or does it just show that if you've committed a crime you might get found guilty? Can a moron please clarify?

[melthebell]

On 09/06/2024 at 13:31, trastrick said:

 

Simple answer!

 

Governments can raise taxes at will, on billionaires and everybody else if they so choose.

 

Let's assume that's the Income side of the equation solved (maybe🙂)

 

Now for the hard part!

 

Unless they stop throwing that income away on endless wars, and corrupt, sometimes hostile governments, and the numerous agencies, and so-called "non-profits" and "contractors" who actually run the very lucrative $billion dollar aid business, it's all to no avail.

 

You have more that half the countries in the world, sucking at the teat of the technically bankrupt West, year after year, and demanding ever more.

 

It's being used for arms, nuclear programmes anti -West indoctrination, even terrorism. In places like Iran, Iraq, Palestine, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Cuba and the rest.

 

The EU just allocated $125 million in aid to Yemen, while the UK and the US are bombing the place! 😀

 

This madness is duplicated year after year by aid to Pakistan for flood (read Monsoon) relief, when they could be spending it on flood control, dams producing hydro-electric power, instead of their Nuclear Weapons programs.

 

The average voter has no concept of how the world actually works, and is apathetic about it, so it continues.

 

But put up the price of a pint, or the gas bill, and they get right snotty about it 😀

 

Unless of course, their income is directly or indirectly tied to the nanny state,  which runs the game, and is
"indexed", in which case, it's,  "I'm all right jack, what's your problem?"

 

 

that is not a simple answer nor does it even remotely have anything to do with what you were replying to

[BigPP]

1 hour ago, Delbow said:

I see Hunter Biden has been convicted on all counts in his trial. Does this confirm that the USA is a fascist state, or does it just show that if you've committed a crime you might get found guilty? Can a moron please clarify?

 

Compare Biden's reaction to his son's conviction with that of Trump's to his.

 

Biden shows support for son Hunter after conviction, says he will respect verdict

 

"As I said last week, I am the President, but I am also a Dad," Biden said. "Jill and I love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. So many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery.

 

"As I also said last week, I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal," the president added. "Jill and I will always be there for Hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. Nothing will ever change that."

[Norbert]

This was written five years ago, and Trump has got exponentially more risible since:

 

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” by Nate White

 

A few things spring to mind;

 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

 

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

 

Scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

 

Worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

 

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of s**t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

 

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W. look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would tear out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?’

 

[The_DADDY]

1 minute ago, Norbert said:

This was written five years ago, and Trump has got exponentially more risible since:

 

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” by Nate White

 

A few things spring to mind;

 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

 

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

 

Scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

 

Worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

 

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of s**t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

 

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W. look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would tear out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?’

 

What a load of tripe 😂😂😂

[melthebell]

3 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

What a load of tripe 😂😂😂

Seems pretty accurate to me

[Norbert]

4 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

What a load of tripe 😂😂😂

Isn't he just.