trastrick Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 55 minutes ago, m williamson said: It's amazing, and somewhat disturbing how easy it is to fool the gullible into trusting and even admiring a despot. It's happened throughout history, and despite evidence of the results of such susceptibility it continues to this very day. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-nazi-salute-film-buckingham-palace-considering-taking-legal-action-over-leaked-footage-10399771.html It's preferable to try to take an objective view on matters and consider the opinions of people who are in a position to have access to more information than the average citizen. Listen to both sides of the argument and then make up your mind. https://www.cer.eu/publications/archive/policy-brief/2024/navigating-storm-eu-uk-and-trump-20 This is the view of Joe Bolton Republican and former American Ambassador to the UN and United States National Security Advisor. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/03/john-bolton-donald-trump-second-term-white-house-memoir/ Joe Bolton is as right wing as they come and that article was in The Telegraph which has endorsed a Conservative government in every election since 1945. Lol You should be embarrassed. Nazi children? Nazi Queen Elizabeth? cer.eu, They share Trump's goal in getting the EU to meet their commitments to their own defense. John Bolton, Fired Trump hater? You Trump haters are getting desperate, and it shows how sick you are! Apparently you are not satisfied with only one attempted Assassination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 20 minutes ago, crookesey said: Yes reminds me of Germany & Japan post WW2, they never recovered did they? 😉 These two were kicked out of their respective office, proved incompetent, the proof is in these two Puddings, nowt to with Japan or Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, crookesey said: I’m surprised that the assassination attempt hasn’t been labelled as a ‘set up’, but having said that it hasn’t done his Presidential prospects any harm. There' s always some weird stuff that goes on around political assassinations. So many "failures", rushes to judgement. No conspiracy, a lone gunman, a deranged malcontent, no foul play suspected, he acted alone. a "botched" robbery. Suicide when video cameras fail and all the guards fall asleep.. All put out the next day with indecent haste, before any serious investigations have started, and the corpse is still warm. A last minute unannounced change to JFK's motorcade route, which coincidently bring him past a building where a a lone sniper is set up and waiting. The truth becomes impossible to sort out, and that's just the way some people like it! They'll be trying to figure out what happened with Trump for a long time, but nobody will ever be accountable for their "mistakes". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 21 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: These two were kicked out of their respective office, proved incompetent, the proof is in these two Puddings, nowt to with Japan or Germany. Hitler & Tojo didn’t cover themselves in glory if my memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 21 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: These two were kicked out of their respective office, proved incompetent, the proof is in these two Puddings, nowt to with Japan or Germany. Never say never in politics. 😀 Some remarkable comebacks in political history. Churchill, De Gaulle, Nixon, Indira Gandhi, Mandela, Peron, Netanyahu, Trump, and who knows? Maybe Boris, if Starmer screws up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m williamson Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 46 minutes ago, trastrick said: Lol You should be embarrassed. Nazi children? Nazi Queen Elizabeth? cer.eu, They share Trump's goal in getting the EU to meet their commitments to their own defense. John Bolton, Fired Trump hater? You Trump haters are getting desperate, and it shows how sick you are! Apparently you are not satisfied with only one attempted Assassination! Obviously you are incapable of holding an adult debate about this ( possibly any) subject. For your information I don't hate Trump, hate is a much overused word. I hold him in contempt as the spoiled weak brat he is, anyone unable to see through that ridiculous charade he puts on is either incapable of any form of character assessment, or alternatively see nothing wrong in his behaviour because they presumably have a similar lack of morals to him. Anyone who thinks that kind of behaviour is acceptable should definitely be embarrassed, but they are probably incapable of any human empathy. Lol ? What are you, five years old? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab6262 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 26 minutes ago, trastrick said: Never say never in politics. 😀 Some remarkable comebacks in political history. Churchill, De Gaulle, Nixon, Indira Gandhi, Mandela, Peron, Netanyahu, Trump, and who knows? Maybe Boris, if Starmer screws up. not " IF" its when! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 28 minutes ago, trastrick said: Never say never in politics. 😀 Some remarkable comebacks in political history. Churchill, De Gaulle, Nixon, Indira Gandhi, Mandela, Peron, Netanyahu, Trump, and who knows? Maybe Boris, if Starmer screws up. Boris. About the same odds as Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: Boris. About the same odds as Thatcher. You lot seem to be obsessed with hairstyles of the rich and famous! So, what about if he gets a haircut? Sheffield short back and sides?😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 7 minutes ago, trastrick said: You lot seem to be obsessed with hairstyles of the rich and famous! So, what about if he gets a haircut? Sheffield short back and sides?😀 Thatcher as in Margaret Thatcher, not a flippin hairstyle. No wonder you support Trump and Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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