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2 minutes ago, Bellatrix said:

How do you come to your conclusions about people in the public eye?  Particularly those who put themselves out there specifically to be judged, either as a worthy political candidate or someone whose assessment and consequent support for that candidate voters are meant to believe and trust?

But his entire family ain't in the pubic eye.

 

To be fair his family seem to adore him so he can't be that bad surely?

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Just now, Al Bundy said:

But his entire family ain't in the pubic eye.

What did you think I was referring to?  His second cousin twice removed?  His family is the business.  Sons, daughters, wife, wives of sons, husband of daughter, girlfriend of son. 

 

9 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

To be fair his family seem to adore him so he can't be that bad surely?

I'm sure Trump loved Trump Snr, too.  He certainly modelled himself on him.

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I also feel sorry for the children of politicians and celebrities. It's not like they chose that life. It's tough enough growing up without having your every move scrutinized and every aspect of your person picked apart by petty, mean spirited people who hate your parent. At least Trump's children seem to be living right and raising their families. 

 

Why don't people take a good, hard long look at Hunter Biden, who is a degenerate drug addict, a disgrace, and all around embarrassment. 

 

 

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Apparently Donald Trump's mother wasn't entirely impressed by him.  

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mother-mary-relationship-what-have-i-created-psychology-macleod-fred-trump-a8037181.html

 

How anyone can support this excuse for a man is beyond me, it really does ask questions with regard to their judgement and apparent lack of morals.

There is no disputing that Trump is a liar, a misogynist, a convicted criminal, a sex offender , who has publicly mocked a disabled man, insulted a war hero and also insulted his country's military personnel.

He had involvement in encouraging insurrection against his government by refusing to accept the election result and is the only American President to be indicted in the 234 year history of the nation. He has been indicted four times. There is no such thing as a perfect human being, we are all fallible, but Trump really is abusing the situation and how his followers can ignore the facts is incredible.

https://time.com/6301112/trump-criminal-cases-status/

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/donald-trump-legal-cases-charges/675531/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

 

No doubt those reports won't be accepted by Trumps acolytes because they appear unable to apply critical thinking when it comes to anything to do with Trump. 

 

This article was written by Peter Wehner a former speechwriter for three Republican Presidents.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/when-are-trump-supporters-complicit/678704/

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8 minutes ago, m williamson said:

Apparently Donald Trump's mother wasn't entirely impressed by him.  

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mother-mary-relationship-what-have-i-created-psychology-macleod-fred-trump-a8037181.html

 

How anyone can support this excuse for a man is beyond me, it really does ask questions with regard to their judgement and apparent lack of morals.

There is no disputing that Trump is a liar, a misogynist, a convicted criminal, a sex offender , who has publicly mocked a disabled man, insulted a war hero and also insulted his country's military personnel.

He had involvement in encouraging insurrection against his government by refusing to accept the election result and is the only American President to be indicted in the 234 year history of the nation. He has been indicted four times. There is no such thing as a perfect human being, we are all fallible, but Trump really is abusing the situation and how his followers can ignore the facts is incredible.

https://time.com/6301112/trump-criminal-cases-status/

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/donald-trump-legal-cases-charges/675531/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

 

No doubt those reports won't be accepted by Trumps acolytes because they appear unable to apply critical thinking when it comes to anything to do with Trump. 

 

This article was written by Peter Wehner a former speechwriter for three Republican Presidents.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/when-are-trump-supporters-complicit/678704/

Maybe his voters like his policies?

 

Just a thought.

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20 minutes ago, Sierra said:

I also feel sorry for the children of politicians and celebrities. It's not like they chose that life. It's tough enough growing up without having your every move scrutinized and every aspect of your person picked apart by petty, mean spirited people who hate your parent. At least Trump's children seem to be living right and raising their families. 

 

Why don't people take a good, hard long look at Hunter Biden, who is a degenerate drug addict, a disgrace, and all around embarrassment. 

 

 

That's certainly an illuminating post.

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32 minutes ago, Al Bundy said:

Maybe his voters like his policies?

 

Just a thought.

 

Maybe believing that someone who has a consistent and provable record of lying will actually carry out his policies is something that only a gullible idiot would do?

 

Just another thought.

 

Before being elected President he made 102 promises, kept 25, compromised on 23 and broke 54. 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/19/how-donald-trump-performed-11-key-promises/

 

 

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1 hour ago, m williamson said:

There is no disputing that Trump is a liar, a misogynist, a convicted criminal, a sex offender , who has publicly mocked a disabled man, insulted a war hero and also insulted his country's military personnel.

I never understood how that didn't end him and his campaign right there.  But after the response to the Access Hollywood tape, (which even his own people initially thought would herald the end of his run - remember those innocent times?), all it did was cement in the notion that his supporters will excuse just about anything, either for cynical reasons (because money) or because they approve of/don't care about his actions.  That they're now excusing/applauding the fact that he's a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist is just the garnish on the **** pie.

 

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, of course.  Compare Trump's mockery of the disabled journalist, to Trump Jr's gleeful taunting of Paul Pelosi, of which this is one example.

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4 hours ago, m williamson said:

Apparently Donald Trump's mother wasn't entirely impressed by him.  

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mother-mary-relationship-what-have-i-created-psychology-macleod-fred-trump-a8037181.html

 

How anyone can support this excuse for a man is beyond me, it really does ask questions with regard to their judgement and apparent lack of morals.

There is no disputing that Trump is a liar, a misogynist, a convicted criminal, a sex offender , who has publicly mocked a disabled man, insulted a war hero and also insulted his country's military personnel.

He had involvement in encouraging insurrection against his government by refusing to accept the election result and is the only American President to be indicted in the 234 year history of the nation. He has been indicted four times. There is no such thing as a perfect human being, we are all fallible, but Trump really is abusing the situation and how his followers can ignore the facts is incredible.

https://time.com/6301112/trump-criminal-cases-status/

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/donald-trump-legal-cases-charges/675531/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

 

No doubt those reports won't be accepted by Trumps acolytes because they appear unable to apply critical thinking when it comes to anything to do with Trump. 

 

This article was written by Peter Wehner a former speechwriter for three Republican Presidents.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/when-are-trump-supporters-complicit/678704/

I have no idea if Donald Trump assaulted E. Jean Carroll. Only the two of them know what happened and someone is not telling the truth.  But I did find this and I can't decide if she's serious or not. If she is, she needs to swear off men entirely  because this sexual assault business keeps happening to her again and again and again.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Sierra said:

I have no idea if Donald Trump assaulted E. Jean Carroll. Only the two of them know what happened and someone is not telling the truth.  But I did find this and I can't decide if she's serious or not. If she is, she needs to swear off men entirely  because this sexual assault business keeps happening to her again and again and again.  

 

 

Did you hear what she said about rape when being interviewed by (I think) CNN? 

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