Rowdy hen parties and very sensitive women

[MidgetSaw]

Excellent video I came across from one of the TED Talks. It was delivered by the creator of the Red Pill movie (which I've not seen, by the way). Basically, she was a feminist who came face-to-face with 'the enemy' - Mens Rights Activists (MRAs).

 

 

I particularly liked her comment regarding discussions like this being a 'competition' - basically, because something happens more to one group of people, the plight of the minority doesn't matter, or isn't taken as seriously. This thread seems to be a hive of that kind of thinking.

 

I found it quite an eye-opener.

[Guest makapaka]

Which ones do you particularly like, we can have a look at them.

 

I don’t particular like any of them I’ve just read them.

 

Read them for yourself.

[Michael_W]

The whole concept of grouping people on the basis of privilege comes from left leaning studies and media in their attempt to give other groups and minorities some sort of victim status.

Privilege is a very broad term and in typical leftist fashion 'they' have taken ownership of it to back up their agendas.

Privilege should not really be defined in such simplistic, or dare I say it 'black and white terms', but of course if your spoon fed by the BBC, the Guardian, Socialist worker and all the online left wing media, you don't have to leave the house to eat it !

[Cyclone]

I don’t particular like any of them I’ve just read them.

 

Read them for yourself.

 

I'll not bother, you don't like them, I can't be bothered, there's nothing to discuss there anyway...

 

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The whole concept of grouping people on the basis of privilege comes from left leaning studies and media in their attempt to give other groups and minorities some sort of victim status.

Privilege is a very broad term and in typical leftist fashion 'they' have taken ownership of it to back up their agendas.

Privilege should not really be defined in such simplistic, or dare I say it 'black and white terms', but of course if your spoon fed by the BBC, the Guardian, Socialist worker and all the online left wing media, you don't have to leave the house to eat it !

 

No it doesn't come from any desire to create victim status.

It's just an acknowledgment that we don't start from a level playing field.

It's a counter to the often heard argument of the undeserving poor.

 

I find it amusing that you clearly dislike the "left leaning" media, I guess you prefer the right, with it's authoritarian, slightly fascist like behaviour, it's attacks on the poor, the middle class, the NHS, it's privatising of anything it can possibly flog (to it's mates for a quick profit) and other such admirable behaviour.

[Guest makapaka]

I'll not bother, you don't like them, I can't be bothered, there's nothing to discuss there anyway...

 

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No it doesn't come from any desire to create victim status.

It's just an acknowledgment that we don't start from a level playing field.

It's a counter to the often heard argument of the undeserving poor.

 

I find it amusing that you clearly dislike the "left leaning" media, I guess you prefer the right, with it's authoritarian, slightly fascist like behaviour, it's attacks on the poor, the middle class, the NHS, it's privatising of anything it can possibly flog (to it's mates for a quick profit) and other such admirable behaviour.

 

Your choice - I don’t think you should continue to correct people on a subject on which you can’t be bothered to read about though.

 

They are after all on the wiki page you have been referring people to - but you haven’t bothered to read them.

[Cyclone]

What makes you think I don't already know those arguments? You won't tell me what they are, so I can't say.

Did you imagine that I hadn't read the page already?

[Michael_W]

I'll not bother, you don't like them, I can't be bothered, there's nothing to discuss there anyway...

 

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No it doesn't come from any desire to create victim status.

It's just an acknowledgment that we don't start from a level playing field.

It's a counter to the often heard argument of the undeserving poor.

 

I find it amusing that you clearly dislike the "left leaning" media, I guess you prefer the right, with it's authoritarian, slightly fascist like behaviour, it's attacks on the poor, the middle class, the NHS, it's privatising of anything it can possibly flog (to it's mates for a quick profit) and other such admirable behaviour.

 

I disagree there is a desire to create victim status by the left and it's media machine, and yes I do lean to the right on many issues, but let's bring it back to the subject matter of sexual misdemeanours, or as you and Halibut might prefer male behaviour.

What do you think about the way we bring kids up today and how that affects their behaviour in life ?

Do you think discipline was better 40 years ago or do you prefer the wishy washy approach we have today that is generally favoured by wishy washy liberals like yourself and Halibut etc ?

The wishy washy liberals have all but given all the naughty kids and their parents excuses in recent years, no discipline at home , no discipline at school, then you all wonder why they grow up with little or no respect for others .... you can't have it both ways !

[Guest makapaka]

I disagree there is a desire to create victim status by the left and it's media machine, and yes I do lean to the right on many issues, but let's bring it back to the subject matter of sexual misdemeanours, or as you and Halibut might prefer male behaviour.

What do you think about the way we bring kids up today and how that affects their behaviour in life ?

Do you think discipline was better 40 years ago or do you prefer the wishy washy approach we have today that is generally favoured by wishy washy liberals like yourself and Halibut etc ?

The wishy washy liberals have all but given all the naughty kids and their parents excuses in recent years, no discipline at home , no discipline at school, then you all wonder why they grow up with little or no respect for others .... you can't have it both ways !

 

You can’t take the high ground and then call people wishy washy liberals. That’s just daft.

 

The way we bring kids up today? Who’s we?

 

You’ve just made the sort of generalisation that you’ve been arguing against in previous posts.

 

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What makes you think I don't already know those arguments? You won't tell me what they are, so I can't say.

Did you imagine that I hadn't read the page already?

 

Ok here’s one if you want to act daft;

 

Naomi Zack similarly criticizes the term white privilege as a misunderstanding of the difference between privileges and rights. Discrimination against nonwhites does not create a privilege in the normal sense of the term, a "specifically granted absolute advantage", a "prerogative or exception granted to an individual or special group".[54] In the United States, Zack writes, discussion of "white privilege" distracts from the discussion of social exclusion of nonwhites, which is the origin of racial disparities.

Edited November 2, 2017 by makapaka

[Michael_W]

You can’t take the high ground and then call people wishy washy liberals. That’s just daft.

 

The way we bring kids up today? Who’s we?

 

You’ve just made the sort of generalisation that you’ve been arguing against in previous posts.

 

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Ok here’s one if you want to act daft;

 

Naomi Zack similarly criticizes the term white privilege as a misunderstanding of the difference between privileges and rights. Discrimination against nonwhites does not create a privilege in the normal sense of the term, a "specifically granted absolute advantage", a "prerogative or exception granted to an individual or special group".[54] In the United States, Zack writes, discussion of "white privilege" distracts from the discussion of social exclusion of nonwhites, which is the origin of racial disparities.

 

I'm not taking the high ground, I am making a point, we is society in general, and I never argued that we could not generalise, indeed in an earlier post on this thread I suggested that we all generalise when it suits us and I stand by that, the fact that wishy washy liberals (the leftists) as I fondly referred to them, are reaping some of what what they are sowing

[Guest makapaka]

I'm not taking the high ground, I am making a point, we is society in general, and I never argued that we could not generalise, indeed in an earlier post on this thread I suggested that we all generalise when it suits us and I stand by that, the fact that wishy washy liberals (the leftists) as I fondly referred to them, are reaping some of what what they are sowing

 

I would say the extremes of both views cause a massive divide which helps no one.