Jared Omara MP ..

[newcomer01]

How I see a Career Politician

 

There are no recruitment ads and no formal contracts, but there is a distinct path to follow. Go to university and be interested in politics (though you may have to lie about that later)

The usual route would be to become a bag-carrier for a senior politician .

After a few years, you may leave to spend some time in “the real world” (as a lobbyist, journalist or PR man). Alternatively get yourself selected as a parliamentary candidate in a safe seat or in this instance take on a previous Deputy PM who got into bed with the wrong crowd and let a lot of people down. Job done and quids in for life.

Once you have attained one of the above it should be plain sailing( proving there is no skeletons in the cupboard)However now being an MP and being found lacking ,you play the game and aplogise. No one will mind, as the other M.P`s are all doing it too.

Now of course that is just the way that I see how it seems to be a good and easy option as a career in politics if things just go your way.Far better than a zero hours contract with a lot more uncertanties and having to do real work

[Annie Bynnol]

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I think you'll find O'Marrow was voted in by misguided young voters in the Hallam ward. Their petty retaliation against Nick Clegg.

 

Voting Tory let Labour in.

 

Misguided young voters? Or young people and their parents who had been promised a change in education funding 8 years earlier?

 

The majority of the Liberal leavers voted Tory as did the collapsing UKIP vote.

It was also the highest turnout for 50+ years.

 

Liberal(-5% of the share of the vote)

Tories(+10%).

Labour benefited by (+2.5%).

 

The Labour vote has increased from 5000 to 2100 since 2005.

[smiggs]

And there’s me thinking it was the Hallam electorate that chose O’Mara as their MP.

 

Most people will just vote for their favoured party very rarely do we get a large negative personal vote especially for new candidates, it's up to the parties to select competent candidates people trust them (or used to trust them) to run the country so selecting candidates ought to be the easy bit.

[Eccy Beach]

 

Not sure you could call Jared O'Mara a "career politician"!

 

A carCRASH yes !!!

 

 

I think you'll find O'Marrow was voted in by misguided young voters in the Hallam ward. Their petty retaliation against Nick Clegg.

 

 

As opposed to the older generations' petty retaliation against the EU, shafting young people's future for some xenophobic jingoism, having taken everything out of the system (free university education being a particularly pertinent example).

Edited July 20, 2018 by nikki-red

[Ms Macbeth]

As opposed to the older generations' petty retaliation against the EU, shafting young people's future for some xenophobic jingoism, having taken everything out of the system (free university education being a particularly pertinent example).

 

Most of the 'older generation', baby boomers like me, didn't go to university. We left school at 15 and got a job. We then lived at home and gave some of our earnings to our parents, not usually moving out until we got married. Once we had children, most mums stayed at home at least for a few years - no NI credits, leaving many women with reduced state pensions, and no free childcare or tax credits to help pay for it. Not sure what we've actually had out of 'the system'.

 

Our children benefited from increased freedoms, more educational opportunities, and more aspirational attitudes. Perhaps they, currently in their forties, are the older generation you refer to? They are now parents to children who may be at university or plan to go. They are hopefully bright enough to realise that there will be nothing to pay back unless their degree buys them a certain level of financial success.

Edited July 20, 2018 by Ms Macbeth

[1978]

As opposed to the older generations' petty retaliation against the EU, shafting young people's future for some xenophobic jingoism, having taken everything out of the system (free university education being a particularly pertinent example).

 

A sweeping generalisation devoid of understanding of the complex situation in this country.

 

Firstly most of us over 65 never had a serious chance to get any university education. Leaving school at 15 was still the norm and 16 was staying on. O levels were the highest level to which most could aspire. The retirement age for men was 65, so a working life of almost 50 years was expected for very many. A large percentage of today's university students would have finished their formal education at 16. A Levels were quite unusual. Yes, a lot of us did get higher qualifications, by attending night classes up to 5 nights a week, or taking correspondence courses, sometimes maybe to get a degree, and usually at our own expense. Most of us we were paying taxes and NHS contritibutions from 15, 16 and 18, not 21 and later.

 

Yes there were lucky ones who got free further education, but nothing like as many as go to university today. That's something that has built up gradually over the last 60 years

 

The younger generations contributed strongly to the retaliaton against the EU. Not so much in the Hallam costituency, but certainly in most of the rest of South Yorkshire, East Anglia and places like Sunderland which were major beneficiaries of EU spending. Assuming all younger people were pro-EU is a dangerous missconception.

 

Accusing all older generations of petty xenophobia doesn't accord with the people I know and associate with. A 96 year old was aghast at that very trait being exhibited across the board. Her view was that for the first 25 years of her life all she knew was wars and killing across Europe. Since 1945 the worst situation was when Yugoslavia fell apart - a salutary lesson we seem to have ignored.

 

A common theme amonst the older people I know was deep concern at the lack of intelligent consideration of the very complex arangements within the EU now, the even more complex arrangements needed to get out, and then to capture the perceived benefits once outside. Thoes who voted Remain because they foresaw chaos if we voted leave are saddened to be proved right!

 

Hallam needs an MP to articulate positively the aspirations of young and old, rich and poor, able and less able, not to further ramp up perceived differences between any of us. Above all we need an MP who can be effective, using his past and present experiences to the advantage of the country, his constitiuents (whether they voted at all, voted for him, or voted for someone else) - and himself.

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[Nijinsky]

Joker

 

How does one find oneself in a position to be elected?

 

Over promoted. I`ve seen it all my life. =He is simply not intelligent enough for such a role.

[Hammerstein]

Not just a little bit bitter and twisted are you.....?

[The Joker]

Joker

 

How does one find oneself in a position to be elected?

 

Over promoted. I`ve seen it all my life. =He is simply not intelligent enough for such a role.

 

Then why don't you do it yourself and run for the position of Lord Mayor, since you're so intelligent.

[Daven]

Then why don't you do it yourself and run for the position of Lord Mayor, since you're so intelligent.

 

Because, clearly, he just isn't ?