GLASGOWOODS Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Politicians , like all wars Certain companies like war, politicians just tow the line and pocket a few quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 In a nutshell, Archduke nephew was assassinated. Balkan states went to war as a result. Various treaties obligated other countries to defend one another and hey presto...World War. ---------- Post added 12-11-2017 at 12:57 ---------- Or Wikipedia’s version: The trigger for the war was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, by Yugoslav nationalist Gavrilo Princip in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. This set off a diplomatic crisis when Austria-Hungary delivered an ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia,[11][12] and entangled international alliances formed over the previous decades were invoked. Within weeks the major powers were at war, and the conflict soon spread around the world. This is the official reason - there are many unofficial reasons as well but most easily put - WW1 was inevitable from a geopolitical point of view. Germany and Italy had become new powers on the European stage, France and Britain had been declining, Russia was about to head into the biggest revolution the world had ever seen, Austrohungaria was at its last legs and so were the Ottomans. To protect themselves from potential German aggression (which had aligned with Austrohungaria and the Ottomans + believed to have Italy on their side as well) the French, British and Russians joined up to create the Triple Entente. Once these powers realised that war was inevitable an enormous build-up of military power was triggered (including the development of lots of new toys, like airplanes and submarines) and frankly, the kings, emperors, republics etc. involved all believed they would have an easy win. Reality was that there was no such thing as an easy win. Russia crumbled in no-time due to the revolution, Britain and France managed to stop the Germans in Belgium through ferocious defence and inept tactics and strategies on either side, the Italians saw a chance to nibble away at a weak Austrohungaria only to get bogged down in trenchwarfare near Trieste. The British tried to project overseas on the Ottomans through the complete disaster that was Gallipoli etc. etc. etc. In the mean-time the Japanese started to exert themselves in the Far East more and more and learned a lot from their Triple Entente allies (which was fragile as the Japanese hated the Russians) and once the Americans joined Britain and France the war was truly global (Although it never reached US shores). The mixture of events and participants led to World War 2 eventually. The war zapped not only economic power from the axis (Austrohungaria, Ottomans and Germany) it also led to a completely devastating loss of life - leading to a very weak geopolitical position for the UK and France which had enormous trouble managing their vast empires with a shortage of recruits for army and navy. Hitler and Mussolini had the same problem but saw aggressive expansion as the only solution. The interbellum saw huge societal changes in Europe, leading to the rise of socialist power (either in Nazi form, or in communist form) which in turn led to political instability throughout. It also led to huge development in military capability - all in all an extremely interesting period in history. Having said that, there is no way that tens of millions lives should have been lost in that manner. Lest we forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Collins Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Trump !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Can anyone on here please explain the main reasons why ww1 started ,have done some reading but still unclear and not sure As normal it was some wanting natural resources from another and fabricating a method to get them. ---------- Post added 12-11-2017 at 18:59 ---------- In a nutshell, Archduke nephew was assassinated. Balkan states went to war as a result. Various treaties obligated other countries to defend one another and hey presto...World War. ---------- Post added 12-11-2017 at 12:57 ---------- Or Wikipedia’s version: The trigger for the war was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, by Yugoslav nationalist Gavrilo Princip in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. This set off a diplomatic crisis when Austria-Hungary delivered an ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia,[11][12] and entangled international alliances formed over the previous decades were invoked. Within weeks the major powers were at war, and the conflict soon spread around the world Yes but wy was he assassinated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 It was odd how- almost like in football at school- the nations picked who would be on each side. Also see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26048324 Here's the chronology in 1914: 28 June- Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary is killed by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb. 23 July- Austria-Hungary issues ultimatum to Serbia. 26 July- Austria-Hungary mobilizes army on Russian frontier. 28 July- Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia. 1 August- Germany declares war on Russia. 4 August- Germany declares war on France & invades France and Belgium. UK declares war on Germany. USA declares neutrality (until 6 April 1917 when USA declares war on Germany). 6 August- Austria-Hungary declares war on Russia. Serbia and Montenegro declare war on Germany. 10 August- France declares war on Austria-Hungary. 12 August- UK declares war on Austria-Hungary. 28 August- Austria-Hungary declares war on Belgium. 2 November- Russia declares war on Turkey. 5 November- UK and France declare war on Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phili Buster Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Trump !!!! Yes, those sprouts have a lot to answer for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Other countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and various African Countries were all asked to help because they were part of The British Empire. Wasn’t it the war that was suppose to end all wars? All those brave men, what a waste of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Yes but why was he assassinated ? Why he was assassinated is the crux of it all. I googled this: Archduke Franz Ferdinand was the heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Austria-Hungary had annexed the Balkans in 1908 and in turn infuriated the Serbian nationals there. Thanks to this annexation, many nationalist groups had been created as they believed they should be allowed to join the new independent Serbian nation. On the day that he was assassinated, Franz Ferdinand had travelled to Sarajevo in order to inspect his troops there. On June 28th, 1914, the archduke and his wife, Sophie, travelled in an open top car through the streets of Sarajevo. It was at this point that a Serbian nationalist from the Black Hand Gang, Nedjelko Cabrinovic, threw a bomb into the car. The bomb hit the back of the vehicle and missed the Archduke, hitting and wounding bystanders. The archduke and his wife were taken to safety, however, he decided that they should go visit these wounded people in the hospital. On the way to visit these people, his driver took a wrong turn, right into Franzjosefstrasse, where another member of the Black Hand Gang, Gavrilo Princip had been buying lunch. He took his opportunity at fired at the archduke and his wife, killing them both. This assassination set off a chain of events which descended into war. The Austria-Hungarian government blamed Serbia for the attacks and sent them an ultimatum. They were to admit the clauses of a document sent to them. Serbia accepted all but one and Austria declared war on Serbia on July 28th, 1914. Russia supported Serbia and went to war to protect them after Kaiser Wilhelm and Germany supported the Austrian Cause. France and Britain joined the cause after a failed Schlieffen plan by Kaiser Wilhelm. Edited January 22, 2018 by poppet2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just been announced Peter Jacksons making a new film about WW1, sounds interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42775398 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimple Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just been announced Peter Jacksons making a new film about WW1, sounds interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42775398 Lets hope this film is more diverse than 2017's Dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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