Cyclone Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Sadly Cyclone, they won't make their feelings known. They will still vote them back in. We managed to vote LD once, we can do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atticus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We managed to vote LD once, we can do it again. Hang on, wasn’t it the Lib Dem’s who negotiated the contract in the first place ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hang on, wasn’t it the Lib Dem’s who negotiated the contract in the first place ? Yes it was. So much rubbish on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atticus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Yes it was. So much rubbish on this thread. For some it’s more about political point scoring than saving trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Luthor Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 We managed to vote LD once, we can do it again. Talk about out of the frying pan, in to the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 They did a better job than the labour council ever have. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:33 ---------- Hang on, wasn’t it the Lib Dem’s who negotiated the contract in the first place ? No. LD were in control 2008 - 2010. This contract is data 31st July 2012 https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/roads-and-pavements/streetsahead/Contract.pdf A labour council has been in control since 2011. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:34 ---------- Yes it was. So much rubbish on this thread. Well, spring with the proof then. Because there's no way the dates line up. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:36 ---------- Strategic goals from the tree management document. https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/roads-and-pavements/streetsahead/Streets%20Ahead%205%20Year%20Tree%20Management%20Strategy.pdf Improve public relationship with highway trees through positive engagement and good management. Maintain Sheffield’s tree heritage by protecting and conserving where appropriate. Failed on those two haven't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hang on, wasn’t it the Lib Dem’s who negotiated the contract in the first place ? I hope that nobody thinks that the council employs thousands of experts in their field and then asks a couple of part time councillors to negotiate the details of a £2.5 billion 25 year contract. Politicians come and go but they do sign off big decisions like employing, and sacking, chief executives who are ultimately responsible for the day to day running of the council. The council's chief executive was John Mothersole when the contract was written and agreed, and is it still John Mothersole now that the council are mismanaging the contract. Changing the colour of politicians just kicks the can further down the road. Real change means some real changes. The Lib Dems employed the CEO, Labour can sack him if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 No. LD were in control 2008 - 2010. This contract is data 31st July 2012 https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/roads-and-pavements/streetsahead/Contract.pdf A labour council has been in control since 2011. Work on developing the PFI started several years before it was eventually signed. My recollection is that the Lib Dems started the process and Labour continued with it. I know people who worked on the contract development. I will ask them to confirm today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny5 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Unless Amey commit some serious kind of breach I don't think there's any getting out of the contract. However we can get out of this council. Elections will be along, and the populace can make their feelings clear at the ballot box. Alas John Mothersoles name won't be on the ballot box. The only way this council will be sorted out is if central government implements special measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 They did a better job than the labour council ever have. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:33 ---------- No. LD were in control 2008 - 2010. This contract is data 31st July 2012 https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/roads-and-pavements/streetsahead/Contract.pdf A labour council has been in control since 2011. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:34 ---------- Well, spring with the proof then. Because there's no way the dates line up. ---------- Post added 05-12-2017 at 07:36 ---------- Strategic goals from the tree management document. https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/content/dam/sheffield/docs/roads-and-pavements/streetsahead/Streets%20Ahead%205%20Year%20Tree%20Management%20Strategy.pdf Improve public relationship with highway trees through positive engagement and good management. Maintain Sheffield’s tree heritage by protecting and conserving where appropriate. Failed on those two haven't they. STAG's own website acknowledges it if you want to have a look; savesheffieldtrees.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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