biotechpete Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 If it wasn't legal he would be prosecuted, nobody is talking about prosecution though. This is about behavioural standards isn't it? My problem with it being about "behavioural standards" is that it's making a moral judgement that watching porn is wrong. It's a behaviour which impacts nobody else. If it's OK for person to watch porn in the privacy of their own home, in public broadcast on TV or in a cinema (or indeed watch a form of soft porn live in a club), then is is different for a person to do that in a locked office, toilet or whatever? ---------- Post added 06-12-2017 at 19:25 ---------- Watching pornography is ENTIRELY different to watching anything else on the Internet. Why? Because it's a SEXUAL ACTIVITY. Completely inappropriate in the workplace. Do not engage in sexual activity at work! In what way is watching porn necessarily a sexual activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In what way is watching porn necessarily a sexual activity? Do you need diagrams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Once again, point out the part about porn. You have the strawman, not I. literally nobody cares, nobody. You don't, I don't, nobody cares if he did it didn't look at porn. It is merely a political cudgel to create adverse political leverage out of something that nobody cares about.[ Once again, I made no claim that there are references to porn in the standards. That's a strawman, asking me to prove something that you've made up as a claim. However, there is a reference to "highest standards of propriety". propriety prəˈprʌɪəti/Submit noun conformity to conventionally accepted standards of behaviour or morals. So given that most organisations don't consider it to be okay to access porn at work, it would appear to be the conventional standard of behaviour that porn is something for your private life, not work life. Ergo, he broke the ministerial code. QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Its not for the police to be judgemental about this MP watching porn in his office(if indeed he did?) and they're wrong to disclose it. Clearly, after all these years, the retired officer in question still has it in for the MP and just wanted to embarrass him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ergo, he broke the ministerial code. QED. That's going to save Sue Gray a lot of time, you need to call her quickly with your decision before she says the wrong thing in her report. (Google her to find out your expert opinion before you reply, just like you always do ) You show remarkably regressive attitudes Halibut, or maybe just hypocritical ones Cyclone. Either way, loosen those magic Mormon pants and let the air circulate a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Once again, I made no claim that there are references to porn in the standards. That's a strawman, asking me to prove something that you've made up as a claim. However, there is a reference to "highest standards of propriety". So given that most organisations don't consider it to be okay to access porn at work, it would appear to be the conventional standard of behaviour that porn is something for your private life, not work life. Ergo, he broke the ministerial code. QED. Even thats not really true - McDonalds free wifi will only let you connect to sites that Mumsnets approve of. It appears to be more of the risk of offence than actually being an offence. ---------- Post added 07-12-2017 at 14:34 ---------- Do you need diagrams? If you have some - it is more than possible to watch the sex act on a screen whilst that is the only sexual activity taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 What has McDonalds free CUSTOMER wifi got to do with acceptable use of the internet at work? ENG - perhaps you can tell her that he didn't, since you seem to be so convinced of that. Did you imagine that your opinion was somehow more valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 If you have some - it is more than possible to watch the sex act on a screen whilst that is the only sexual activity taking place. It's just inappropriate to be seeking sexual arousal/satisfaction in a work environment. ---------- Post added 07-12-2017 at 17:21 ---------- You show remarkably regressive attitudes Halibut,. Do you consider it acceptable to masturbate or have sexual intercourse at work? What about openly staring at a colleagues breasts? How is looking at porn any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 What has McDonalds free CUSTOMER wifi got to do with acceptable use of the internet at work? ENG - perhaps you can tell her that he didn't, since you seem to be so convinced of that. Did you imagine that your opinion was somehow more valid? I was just trying to highlight - that as everyone is getting bogged down with porn at work and restrictions because its work, outdoor venues are also restricting porn therefore its not even for your private life apparently. ---------- Post added 07-12-2017 at 17:34 ---------- It's just inappropriate to be seeking sexual arousal/satisfaction in a work environment. ---------- Post added 07-12-2017 at 17:21 ---------- Do you consider it acceptable to masturbate or have sexual intercourse at work? What about openly staring at a colleagues breasts? How is looking at porn any different? That can be achieved without viewing porn. What about reading literature on your lunchbreak? How many ladies read 50 shades and went back to work a little deeper shade of red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ah I see. I would suggest that using porn in a restaurant would also not be "acting with the highest levels of propriety". And McD's don't want you watching grumble flicks with your bigmac and that awkward hand shuffle under the table. Most public wifi will in fact be filtered. But that's because it's not private is it and therefore not appropriate, much like at work. Reading something on the other hand is quite private, nobody can oversee or overhear the book. Although I'd suggest that if you tote a trouser tent around the office you might be called in for a chat with HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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