Watching porno at work – is it ever alright?

[ENG601PM]

What has McDonalds free CUSTOMER wifi got to do with acceptable use of the internet at work?

 

ENG - perhaps you can tell her that he didn't, since you seem to be so convinced of that. Did you imagine that your opinion was somehow more valid?

 

Didn't what? Watch porn on his laptop? Maybe at work, maybe in McDonald's, maybe at home? I don't have a clue but since porn is more popular than Sheffield Forum he might well have done.

 

But here's the rub, if it doesn't affect his work I literally don't care and neither do you despite your disingenuous Google driven protestations. You've idiotically drawn yourself into a manufactured argument that nobody cares about and I'm enjoying twirling you like a top.

[Cyclone]

Didn't breach the ministerial code seems to be your claim.

 

You seem to think you've somehow caught me in a contradiction, but only you can see it.

You seem to think that because something is an opinion it's not valid, unless it's yours apparently.

 

You've even manufactured an argument about the ministerial code, but quickly abandoned that and turned instead to just ad homs.

 

It must be said though, that for something you don't care about, you seem to be posting about it a lot.

[Supertramp]

He should have just said that he was doing research ahead of announcing policy proposals on internet porn.

[ENG601PM]

Didn't breach the ministerial code seems to be your claim.

 

You seem to think you've somehow caught me in a contradiction, but only you can see it.

You seem to think that because something is an opinion it's not valid, unless it's yours apparently.

 

You've even manufactured an argument about the ministerial code, but quickly abandoned that and turned instead to just ad homs.

 

It must be said though, that for something you don't care about, you seem to be posting about it a lot.

 

Oh dear, we're still going at the pace of the slowest kid in the class. Go back and read it all again and if you can find such a claim, write it out ten times.

[Cyclone]

You still don't care and you're still posting about it?

 

If you didn't think he breached the ministerial code, why did you keep going on about it, even strawmanning with claims that I'd said he did.

 

Apart from "I don't care", which is clearly untrue, did you actually have anything to add, or were you just being a troll? Oh, and a little bit more ad hom, you can't resist can you. Try discussing like a grown up, argue a point, don't insult people.

 

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This is about behavioural standards isn't it?

 

In case you've gotten confused, this is the statement I made. That the whole issue is about standards.

I've even quoted the particular bit since you kept demanding a reference to the section about porn, even though I'd never said such existed.

 

"the highest standards of propriety"

 

My contention, that you seem unable to discuss, is that watching porn in your office is not maintaining that standard.

Edited December 8, 2017 by Cyclone

[Guest makapaka]

It's just inappropriate to be seeking sexual arousal/satisfaction in a work environment.

 

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Do you consider it acceptable to masturbate or have sexual intercourse at work? What about openly staring at a colleagues breasts?

 

How is looking at porn any different?

 

It's really odd if you consider those things to be the same.

[ENG601PM]

You still don't care and you're still posting about it?

 

If you didn't think he breached the ministerial code, why did you keep going on about it, even strawmanning with claims that I'd said he did.

 

Apart from "I don't care", which is clearly untrue, did you actually have anything to add, or were you just being a troll? Oh, and a little bit more ad hom, you can't resist can you. Try discussing like a grown up, argue a point, don't insult people.

 

---------- Post added 08-12-2017 at 12:18 ----------

 

 

In case you've gotten confused, this is the statement I made. That the whole issue is about standards.

I've even quoted the particular bit since you kept demanding a reference to the section about porn, even though I'd never said such existed.

 

"the highest standards of propriety"

 

My contention, that you seem unable to discuss, is that watching porn in your office is not maintaining that standard.

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Oh dear, we're still going at the pace of the slowest kid in the class. Go back and read it all again and if you can find such a claim, write it out ten times.

[esme]

Mod Note

 

OK, stop with the thinly veiled insults and digs, discuss the issue or go to another thread and discuss that.

 

Any more insults in this thread will result in suspensions for those concerned.

 

The thread will be unlocked shortly to give people time to read this.

[biotechpete]

Do you need diagrams?

 

You seem to be suggesting that watching porn necessarily involves sex acts by the person watching it. I could draw you a diagram of a person sitting in front of a TV - it's not a sexual activity. Facebook employees watch porn all the time because they have to review things people post. Are you suggesting that all those employees are involved in sex acts? Perhaps you do need to draw the diagram and study it yourself.

 

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It's just inappropriate to be seeking sexual arousal/satisfaction in a work environment.

 

---------- Post added 07-12-2017 at 17:21 ----------

 

 

Do you consider it acceptable to masturbate or have sexual intercourse at work? What about openly staring at a colleagues breasts?

 

How is looking at porn any different?

 

Openly staring at a colleague involves that colleague. Porn is not the same as sexual harassment and it's not trivial of you to be blurring the lines.

 

On the first part, in my opinion it's perfectly acceptable for 2 consenting adults to do whatever they like if it affects nobody else.

 

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Ah I see. I would suggest that using porn in a restaurant would also not be "acting with the highest levels of propriety". And McD's don't want you watching grumble flicks with your bigmac and that awkward hand shuffle under the table.

Most public wifi will in fact be filtered. But that's because it's not private is it and therefore not appropriate, much like at work.

Reading something on the other hand is quite private, nobody can oversee or overhear the book.

Although I'd suggest that if you tote a trouser tent around the office you might be called in for a chat with HR.

 

Work can and does in many situations involve privacy and confidentiality. I don't hear what goes on in my bosses meetings - it's private. My friend once hid under his desk in his office because he had not been able to complete a piece of work on time. No body could find or see him. Being in your place of work is not the same thing as being in public. Being at work doesn't mean you have to be working with colleagues. Indeed on the flip side, you can be at work in the privacy of your own home.

 

I imagine if someone had observed an MP performing a sex act that would be an entirely different matter.

[TimmyR]

It's just inappropriate to be seeking sexual arousal/satisfaction in a work environment.

 

Well i read somewhere (probably the guardian) that manually fulfilling ones sexual arousal (in the toilets for example) can be a good way to relieve tension in the office and so should be encouraged. I'm not saying whether I agree nor disagree with such activities.