Eccy Beach Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Have environmental campaigners concentrated efforts too much on saving street trees when other battles need to be fought? Over the past 5 years considerable effort, and cost, has been expended on the campaign to save Sheffield street trees from felling as part of the Street's Ahead program. This has been heavily publicised and the debate has been vigorous on both sides. However, have those wishing to protect Sheffield's environment expended too much energy on this campaign at the expense of other problems? There is currently a rapid loss of open playing fields within the city. For example around Norton, former university playing fields on Hemsworth Road are currently being built upon. The former Norton College site, much of which was covered with either green fields and flowering cherry trees, has been replaced by a retail site and car park with no green space whatsoever. The playing fields of the former special school on Matthews Lane have been built upon. Many of these fields were once council owned. However, many of these developments, and the loss of trees upon them has largely gone uncommented and without protest. Why such green publicly accessible sites are developed when there are considerable numbers of brownfield and underused derelict sites around the city remains a mystery. Why does not the council identify underused green areas rather than those the public continues to use? Has too much emphasis been placed on street trees? Trees are the ultimate renewable resource; a felled tree can be replanted, but lost school playing fields are gone forever. Would not increased effort on stopping development of pleasant green sites be more productive? Because those trees aren't the ones outside main protagonists houses making their road look pretty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) By "Those trees" you're actually referring to playing fields are you? The issue of the council selling off green space is a separate one, people can be against two things at once, but you can't expect someone to be passionate about everything. If walkermark thinks that the sale of green spaces is a big problem then why not start a protest group or pressure the council yourself? Edited September 13, 2018 by Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Weird isn’t it. I’m not a big fan of the council. The accusation that I am - because i don’t agree with some of the people on here on certain subjects - is the worst type of argument. “You don’t agree with me so you must have an agenda” You for one are a better poster than that usually. I think it comes more from your consistent and relentless defence of the council against any and all criticism. People (myself included) find that rather odd, as the council continue their demise into being increasingly unaccountable and incompetent....not to mention some of the, ahem, 'untruths' and their seemingly bottomless cash pit when it comes to battling tree protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think it comes more from your consistent and relentless defence of the council against any and all criticism. People (myself included) find that rather odd, as the council continue their demise into being increasingly unaccountable and incompetent....not to mention some of the, ahem, 'untruths' and their seemingly bottomless cash pit when it comes to battling tree protesters. I think it’s more from your consistent and relentless attack on the council and refusal to accept any defence of their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think it’s more from your consistent and relentless attack on the council and refusal to accept any defence of their actions. Based on what exactly? My belief that hacking down trees and arresting people with pink trumpets is a little 'off'? I'll consistently and relentlessly attack that (and the amount of money wasted on the Amey contract and doing their bidding) quite happily, as I don't think there's anything to defend. I don't think you'll find I'm the only one with these views either somehow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Based on what exactly? My belief that hacking down trees and arresting people with pink trumpets is a little 'off'? I'll consistently and relentlessly attack that (and the amount of money wasted on the Amey contract and doing their bidding) quite happily, as I don't think there's anything to defend. I don't think you'll find I'm the only one with these views either somehow.... Not nice when people just make unsupported statements about you is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula4sheff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Not nice when people just make unsupported statements about you is it? A bit different. Back to the point: you must see why many people on here believe you have a vested interest in defending the council, across many threads? It's not just one issue - it's any criticism. Hence speculation as to why you are so keen to defend them against any and all allegations. I don't believe myself that you are a council employee...but I do wonder as to why your defenses are so common and ready. I guess that will remain a mystery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Anyway, back on topic. Is this tree-felling still a thing? I live in the area most affected and can't say I've seen any evidence of any trees being removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Weird isn’t it. I’m not a big fan of the council. The accusation that I am - because i don’t agree with some of the people on here on certain subjects - is the worst type of argument. “You don’t agree with me so you must have an agenda” You for one are a better poster than that usually. In what way aren't you a fan? Can you name something you don't agree with that the council have done recently with regards to the tree saga or in fact anything at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 When walking my dog yesterday, noticed a few new signs on trees in the area, nothing stating or suggesting any Amey involvement but the signs are from SCC saying street maintenance from next Monday, 17th Sept. Presumably then just a clean up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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