Council tree felling...

[Cyclone]

1 hour ago, lil-minx92 said:

Or they will just point blank refuse they said it! 

It's on court record, they can claim they didn't say it all they want, but that's just perjuring themselves further.

[lil-minx92]

Just now, Cyclone said:

It's on court record, they can claim they didn't say it all they want, but that's just perjuring themselves further.

I know but they have a habit of lying & denying even in the face of facts

[Cyclone]

40 minutes ago, lil-minx92 said:

I know but they have a habit of lying & denying even in the face of facts

Which would be great.  They could then claim that they weren't going to jail even as they were lead away in cuffs.  I'd laugh so hard.

[Robin-H]

18 hours ago, dave_the_m said:

The Council has just published a report for Cabinet concerning the 309 street trees that remained to be felled during the Core Period of the Amey contract, at the time a moratorium on felling started back in March 2018.

Of these, 218 have been investigated so far, and of those, 191 can be retained with standard solutions, 26 with bespoke solutions, and 1 can't be fixed.

These are all trees that SCC told the High Court (with a straight face) were to felled as a last resort as they couldn't be saved.

 

I wonder how many of the thousands and thousands of street trees that were felled could have been saved.

 

If the percentages are anything like this small sample then it would have been a lot..

 

Vindication for the people arguing this from the beginning, but small solace in the face of what has been unnecessary lost. 

[PeteM01]

1 hour ago, Robin-H said:

I wonder how many of the thousands and thousands of street trees that were felled could have been saved.

 

If the percentages are anything like this small sample then it would have been a lot..

 

Vindication for the people arguing this from the beginning, but small solace in the face of what has been unnecessary lost. 

I would be interested to know what percentage of the felled trees have been replaced - do you have this figure?

[dave_the_m]

6 minutes ago, PeteM01 said:

I would be interested to know what percentage of the felled trees have been replaced - do you have this figure?

They're supposed to do a 1-1 replacement with saplings, but not necessarily at the same location. They told the High Court that all the saplings have a circumference on their trunk of 14-16cm - it turns out the contract specified 12-16cm, and it further transpires that they have been routinely going below 12cm. Many of these saplings have been vandalised or didn't survive last summer's drought.

[PeteM01]

1 hour ago, dave_the_m said:

They're supposed to do a 1-1 replacement with saplings, but not necessarily at the same location. They told the High Court that all the saplings have a circumference on their trunk of 14-16cm - it turns out the contract specified 12-16cm, and it further transpires that they have been routinely going below 12cm. Many of these saplings have been vandalised or didn't survive last summer's drought.

Less than 12cm - that sounds about right for some near us in Crookes. Many were vandalised but were replanted and seem to have to have survived.

[c00kie]

2 hours ago, dave_the_m said:

They're supposed to do a 1-1 replacement with saplings, but not necessarily at the same location. They told the High Court that all the saplings have a circumference on their trunk of 14-16cm - it turns out the contract specified 12-16cm, and it further transpires that they have been routinely going below 12cm. Many of these saplings have been vandalised or didn't survive last summer's drought.

The consequence of this policy is that some areas of Sheffield have had significant reductions in the number of street trees.  Firth Park ward, for instance, has had a net reduction of 160 trees; Burngreave ward 50 trees.

[Cyclone]

5 hours ago, PeteM01 said:

I would be interested to know what percentage of the felled trees have been replaced - do you have this figure?

I can tell you how many were replaced with trees that have now grown to be just as large.  None.

Some of the trees on my street were replaced, by what are basically still saplings, and will be for many years to come.

[PeteM01]

26 minutes ago, Cyclone said:

I can tell you how many were replaced with trees that have now grown to be just as large.  None.

Some of the trees on my street were replaced, by what are basically still saplings, and will be for many years to come.

All trees start off as saplings. You just need to be patient.

 

The loss of trees in specific locations, as mentioned by c00kie, is much more of a concern to me.