Eccy Beach Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 They clearly aren't. They are acting with the letter of the contract and the law, but not within the spirit, and SCC don't have the guts to fight them on it. Don't think its a lack of ticker, it's a business decision based on the costs they'd incur if their legal team (paid significantly less than private sector and therefore not likely to attract those with best skills) got their pants taken down at high court by Amey's lawyers. I suspect if SCC did go to court and that happened everyone would scream blue murder at them for wasting taxpayers money. Every council in country is/has been shafted by PFI but were driven to these contracts by previous labour gov't and current tory gov't. It's all well and good blaming SCC and they deserve some share of blame but it's clearly bigger than SCC - just like global economic crash was bigger than the Labour gov't's policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Plenty of other councils have managed to get out of contracts with Amey... SCC though keep defending the contract and the behaviour of Amey. I doubt that the contract stops them being critical of how it's being fulfilled, so they actually seem to be defensive about the fact that they've screwed up. They won't admit it, and so the only response they can make is instead to defend it and claim that it's what they wanted all along. I hope they get punished for this at the ballot box, it's the only thing that will teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Don't think its a lack of ticker, it's a business decision based on the costs they'd incur if their legal team (paid significantly less than private sector and therefore not likely to attract those with best skills) got their pants taken down at high court by Amey's lawyers. I suspect if SCC did go to court and that happened everyone would scream blue murder at them for wasting taxpayers money. Every council in country is/has been shafted by PFI but were driven to these contracts by previous labour gov't and current tory gov't. It's all well and good blaming SCC and they deserve some share of blame but it's clearly bigger than SCC - just like global economic crash was bigger than the Labour gov't's policies. Well costs / concerns for wasting council taxpayers money never stopped SCC in the past did it? Remember the court action to try & stop IKEA opening a site down near Meadowhall? If SCC were more open, having hinted that there would be substantial costs from ending the contract with Amey, why not provide a figure so that we, the electorate, can see for ourselves the possible costs? We could also just the figure against any possible court case costs, comparing them to costs paid by other local authorities in court cases involving Amey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Well costs / concerns for wasting council taxpayers money never stopped SCC in the past did it? Remember the court action to try & stop IKEA opening a site down near Meadowhall? If SCC were more open, having hinted that there would be substantial costs from ending the contract with Amey, why not provide a figure so that we, the electorate, can see for ourselves the possible costs? We could also just the figure against any possible court case costs, comparing them to costs paid by other local authorities in court cases involving Amey? What court action to prevent ikea opening are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaJones76 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 What court action to prevent ikea opening are you referring to? Think there is some confusion, they wanted Next Home to open in town (on the old Mothercare site), not IKEA, and rejected their planning application for their current Meadowhall site. Next challenged this decision and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Think there is some confusion, they wanted Next Home to open in town (on the old Mothercare site), not IKEA, and rejected their planning application for their current Meadowhall site. Next challenged this decision and won. Thanks for clarifying. So there was no court case involving ikea. The council tried to get a big retailer into the city centre but failed due to the retailer appealing the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 What court action to prevent ikea opening are you referring to? Apologies. It wasn't a court case but a long running planning application battle that still cost over £100,000 of council taxpayers money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Apologies. It wasn't a court case but a long running planning application battle that still cost over £100,000 of council taxpayers money. What planning application battle - are you talking about next or IKEA now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fonz Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 They clearly aren't. They are acting with the letter of the contract and the law, but not within the spirit, and SCC don't have the guts to fight them on it. I think you are giving SCC too much credit, why would they want to fight them? What do you think the spirit of the contract is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaJones76 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Apologies. It wasn't a court case but a long running planning application battle that still cost over £100,000 of council taxpayers money. Next, not IKEA http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-23182687 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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