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In what way would it be undemocratic to have a 2nd vote once the details are known?

 

Another referendum would be viewed as an undemocratic betrayal by the 17.4 million Leave voters, who would simply see it as this Remainer Parliament, the Lords and Junker and his rich friends (Remainers Branson, Blair and Clegg) double crossing them.

 

An EU membership referendum is a once in a generation decision.

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Another referendum would be viewed as an undemocratic betrayal by the 17.4 million Leave voters, who would simply see it as this Remainer Parliament, the Lords and Junker and his rich friends (Remainers Branson, Blair and Clegg) double crossing them.

 

An EU membership referendum is a once in a generation decision.

 

The referendum of 2016 was a joke, and will be seen as such by millions, so too was the 2011 AV referendum.

Scotland, or should I say the SNP want another referendum, and so too will those that want to be in the EU.

 

Will leaving the EU be best for democracy, probably. What we need to improve democracy is reform.

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He talks like he is at the pub, much is said which should not be taken literally.

 

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It would not be undemocratic, but it would cause uncertainty, a good reason to have another referendum if more details are known, but is that a good enough reason.

 

I think once we know the full details of the deal, then it's a very good reason. If its a poor deal do we just jump over the edge like lemmings through sheer bloody-mindedness? Let's hope not, there's far too much at stake here.

 

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Another referendum would be viewed as an undemocratic betrayal by the 17.4 million Leave voters, who would simply see it as this Remainer Parliament, the Lords and Junker and his rich friends (Remainers Branson, Blair and Clegg) double crossing them.

 

An EU membership referendum is a once in a generation decision.

 

Who says it's a once in a generation decision? No need to reply because that's something you just made up. If the will and desire is there for a second vote once the full details are known then why not?

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Who says it's a once in a generation decision? No need to reply because that's something you just made up. If the will and desire is there for a second vote once the full details are known then why not?

The last EU/EEC referendum before 2016 was in 1975, which is a gap of more than a generation. The electorate was fully aware before the 2016 referendum vote that a Leave victory meant the UK was leaving the EU for the foreseeable future. Whatever the full details of the Brexit outcome are irrelevant.

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The last EU/EEC referendum before 2016 was in 1975, which is a gap of more than a generation. The electorate was fully aware before the 2016 referendum vote that a Leave victory meant the UK was leaving the EU for the foreseeable future. Whatever the full details of the Brexit outcome are irrelevant.

 

You think an outcome that could destroy the economic stability (amongst other things) of this country is irrelevant?

 

Good heavens above.

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Who says it's a once in a generation decision? No need to reply because that's something you just made up. If the will and desire is there for a second vote once the full details are known then why not?

 

I've absolutely no need to make things up.

 

I think the former Prime Minister David Cameron may have stated that the EU referendum was a once in a generation decision? And I'm certain that the government leaflet mailed out to every single home in the UK urging us all to vote remain also stated that this would be a once in a generation vote.

 

I do know that former Labour Home Secretary Alan Johnson, head of the Remainer 'Labour In for Britain' group during the referendum campaign, stated that “This election will define our society for generations".

 

Not 'This election will define our society for a short period of time until we can scare the masses into voting for a Remain result'.

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You think an outcome that could destroy the economic stability (amongst other things) of this country is irrelevant?

 

Good heavens above.

I am saying whatever the outcome is irrelevant to the democratic process. The electorate was fully aware before the vote that there were no economic guarantees. Most countries in the World are not in the EU and the UK are the 5th largest economy so the UK will still be one of the best and most wealthy places in the World to live in. We are lucky to live in the UK now and still will be lucky to live in the UK long after Brexit has been settled.

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The referendum of 2016 was a joke, and will be seen as such by millions, so too was the 2011 AV referendum.

 

The referendum may have been a joke to you. But more people – 17,410,742 – voted to Leave the EU than have ever voted for anything else in the entirety of British history.

 

The result, with its very high turnout, was decisive.

 

Our decision must be enacted. We must leave the EU. The wealthy politicians and celebrities are trying their best to thwart the will of the democratic people on this.

 

For democracy's sake they must not succeed.

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