avalunche Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Clegg is a tribute to Sheffield people's bad judgement. 12 Years he was our MP, and they replaced him with someone who was suspended from his own party for the nasty things he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Clegg is a tribute to Sheffield people's bad judgement. 12 Years he was our MP, and they replaced him with someone who was suspended from his own party for the nasty things he said. They replaced him end of story. Whoever Labour put up against him would have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 In hindsight another election wouldn’t have been a bad thing. Germany are taking months to form a Government, our way of doing these things, means its the Queen that is in control of whether or not we have another election, not sure an un-elected 90 year old should be in charge of that. Hindsight makes things easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Germany are taking months to form a Government, our way of doing these things, means its the Queen that is in control of whether or not we have another election, not sure an un-elected 90 year old should be in charge of that. Hindsight makes things easy. the queen isn't in control, the fixed term parliaments act created a fixed date for the next general election with an option for the house of commons to select an earlier date should they wish too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Germany are taking months to form a Government, our way of doing these things, means its the Queen that is in control of whether or not we have another election, not sure an un-elected 90 year old should be in charge of that. Hindsight makes things easy. We effectively have no government now. The country will still keep running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 the queen isn't in control, the fixed term parliaments act created a fixed date for the next general election with an option for the house of commons to select an earlier date should they wish too. Appointing a government The day after a general election the Queen invites the leader of the party that won the most seats in the House of Commons to become Prime Minister and to form a government. That was the Conservatives, but it was rather complicated. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/relations-with-other-institutions/parliament-crown/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Appointing a government The day after a general election the Queen invites the leader of the party that won the most seats in the House of Commons to become Prime Minister and to form a government. That was the Conservatives, but it was rather complicated. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/relations-with-other-institutions/parliament-crown/ your original comment was ....the Queen that is in control of whether or not we have another election.... and I was pointing out that this is not the case. the government is formed from the party (or parties) which can command the confidence of the house of commons and that would pretty much always be the case as long as the head of state and head of government are separate people. the queen's role in all this is essentially ceremonial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 the government is formed from the party (or parties) which can command the confidence of the house of commons and that would pretty much always be the case as long as the head of state and head of government are separate people. the queen's role in all this is essentially ceremonial. At the time of the negotiations for a new Government in 2010, it was unclear whether Cameron should be named as our next PM, or whether the Queen should wait weeks n weeks to see if Brown could carry on with the support of the smaller parties. So the claim was that the Con/LibDem negotiations were rushed. It was all very much a new experience, which has not occurred before. Did the Queen have the authority to wait for Brown to resign, and a new leader form an agreement with the Liberal Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 At the time of the negotiations for a new Government in 2010, it was unclear whether Cameron should be named as our next PM, or whether the Queen should wait weeks n weeks to see if Brown could carry on with the support of the smaller parties. So the claim was that the Con/LibDem negotiations were rushed. It was all very much a new experience, which has not occurred before. Did the Queen have the authority to wait for Brown to resign, and a new leader form an agreement with the Liberal Democrats. it was clear very early on that there was no enthusiasm for brown to carry on, labour lost the election. he stayed on for a while to allow the conservatives and lib dems time to sort things out, but when that seemed to be taking ages he forced the issue by resigning. even when cameron was appointed pm, it took several weeks for the coalition agreement to be finalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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