SnailyBoy Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Now that's an interesting one. In a way, no. The driver is aware of the bus lane being in operation. The driver may assume that the bus lane can be used because it is Christmas day but that doesn't make it so. By the same token the council know the bus lane isn't required on Christmas Day. So if the council deliberately set out to check the CCTV with the intent of catching motorists puerly for financial gain then that's entrapment. If the council can demonstrate that the bus lane is required on that day then that's another story. But they can't, can they? They weren't deceived, so it wasn't fraudulent. They've weren't enticed into the bus lane, so it wasn't entrapment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 What's so special about Christmas Day anyway? Why should it be a free for all, some sort of present from Jesus? What about those who don't celebrate Christmas? They already have to suffer closed shops for our religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince al Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Can't believe you are still harping on about this. Zzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Re-read the OP - they never did drive in it "I am not a motorist, but I find it totally unacceptable for any Council to decide to enforce bus lane restrictions on Christmas Day." so we've had 15 pages of debate over an issue 2 months old from an OP that had no impact from it. Oh FFS!!!! <bangs head on wall!!> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yeah, but it turned out that people were offended on the OPs behalf. They didn't realise it until he mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niallzi Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Did everyone have a nice Christmas? I got a new car which I took out for a spin in some bus lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAtkin Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 They weren't deceived, so it wasn't fraudulent. They've weren't enticed into the bus lane, so it wasn't entrapment. In fact if they DID start making exceptions then you COULD argue deception if on some bank holidays they remained in force. How is a motorist supposed to remember which? Not all bank holidays are treated equally by public transport, some bank holidays will be busier on the road than others. So saying that bus lanes will NEVER be needed on any bank holiday is disingenuous. Its just not logical for the council to make it more confusing by having exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You make the same mistake as others in assuming the that a bus lane is a car lane occasionally assigned to buses - it's a lane for buses - it's not for people to drive cars in. Therefore the council doesn't have to demonstrate that a bus lane is required - it only has to tell you that it's a bus lane and not to use it - which they do. You have that the wrong way round. Most bus lanes are for the use of any vehicle for most of the day and all of a weekend. They have specific times in which they are for the sole use of buses (and other permitted vehicles). One wonders why you continue to attempt to paint this false image of what bus lanes are for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You have that the wrong way round. Most bus lanes are for the use of any vehicle for most of the day and all of a weekend. They have specific times in which they are for the sole use of buses (and other permitted vehicles). One wonders why you continue to attempt to paint this false image of what bus lanes are for... No - youve just repeated what I said in a different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 No - youve just repeated what I said in a different way. I'd have thought a couple of hours in the morning or evening could be classed as occaisional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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