Just how much do the Government care about our border security?

[iansheff]

Just read an article which said: The Home Office today admitted that proposals for "Border Force Special Volunteers" at small air and sea ports were being discussed. They would be used to bolster Border Force staff like police community support officers.

They have sacked people due to cuts and now looking to rectify it on the cheap, do they realise this isn't the same as local volunteers running their libraries?

Is there nothing they won't do to save money? How safe will volunteers be and what if something happened to them if there was an incident?

Personally I would prefer the security of our borders to be managed and run by professional people who have been trained to do the job.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-government-slammed-over-ridiculous-11775814

Edited December 31, 2017 by iansheff

[I1L2T3]

Smuggling is a massively lucrative criminal enterprise.

 

Volunteers would be swatted away like flies. The government has lost the plot and doesn’t understand what it is suggesting. Any volunteers would be in serious danger.

[Cyclone]

Does being a volunteer somehow make it more dangerous? It's not like there are armed officers at minor ports anyway is it?

[I1L2T3]

Does being a volunteer somehow make it more dangerous? It's not like there are armed officers at minor ports anyway is it?

 

Of course it does. Unless they have the years of training that regular regular border forces get, powers of arrest etc...

 

It would put untrained people at risk.

[max]

We visited a Coastguard station in Cornwall which was staffed by volunteers from National Coastwatch. Their website states that they are there to support the Coast Guard with monitoring weather and seafarers. However, the volunteers also logged all vessels which were deemed capable of being used for smuggling. I'm guessing that this latest drive for volunteers is to plug the gaps where they don't have watch stations.

[Guest]

We're an island for gods sake, we should be a fortress as far as keeping people out is concerned.

[Cyclone]

Of course it does. Unless they have the years of training that regular regular border forces get, powers of arrest etc...

 

It would put untrained people at risk.

 

Well, they'd certainly be less able to take any action, but I can't see how not trying to arrest someone puts you at risk, nor how training really reduces any risk that comes from 3rd parties anyway.

[I1L2T3]

Well, they'd certainly be less able to take any action, but I can't see how not trying to arrest someone puts you at risk, nor how training really reduces any risk that comes from 3rd parties anyway.

 

So you think it would be a good idea for some volunteers to confront people in the midst of a criminal operation?

 

Ok.................

[The Joker]

We're an island for gods sake, we should be a fortress as far as keeping people out is concerned.

 

You can blame our previous Home Secretary for that.

 

They promised to reduce immigration in their manifesto but it increased instead.

 

What an incompetent buffoon they were in that post.

 

Didn’t they disappear out of public life after that?

 

Actually no, no they didn’t

[andyofborg]

We're an island for gods sake, we should be a fortress as far as keeping people out is concerned.

 

why?

 

we have 11,000 miles of coastline, even taking into account that quite a bit would be difficult for a boat to land and successfully deposit passengers you would still need thousands of people to patrol it.