hackey lad Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Always wanted a beach front property . How long will I have to wait ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Perhaps you should learn the difference between weather and climate. explain it, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 explain it, please. Climate change affects the planet, not just Sheffield, that would be weather. A person living in Sheffield would be unable to say if his/her weather was related to climate change, unless they Googled and got some international facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC33 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 When the planet cools that's global warming too. Talk about having all bases covered. The sea is rising - it's just that there's no observable evidence of it. Just trust the talking heads......baa,baa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 There is observable evidence, just not on the timescale of you standing at Scarborough for 5 minutes and watching. ---------- Post added 11-01-2018 at 07:32 ---------- They always have what caused the Sheffield flood of 1856 or hot Wednesday 1808 or the freezing cold 1768, climate change? Interesting that you have to go back 250 years to name 3 events, but if you look back over the last decade you could find many more extremes than we would expect... The point isn't that extremes don't occur, it's about how frequently they are occuring. Well, that and the averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 There is observable evidence, just not on the timescale of you standing at Scarborough for 5 minutes and watching. ---------- Post added 11-01-2018 at 07:32 ---------- Interesting that you have to go back 250 years to name 3 events, but if you look back over the last decade you could find many more extremes than we would expect... The point isn't that extremes don't occur, it's about how frequently they are occuring. Well, that and the averages. Thats going back to a time when you can't blame human involvement, there has always been extremes, it's just recently some can profit from them. ---------- Post added 11-01-2018 at 07:52 ---------- Climate change affects the planet, not just Sheffield, that would be weather. A person living in Sheffield would be unable to say if his/her weather was related to climate change, unless they Googled and got some international facts. Strangely enough Sheffield is part of the planet and affected by climate, we don't live in a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 The sea is rising - it's just that there's no observable evidence of it. Not that you would notice in Sheffield, or even when you go on your jollies to Blackpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Weren't they worrying, a while ago, about Doncaster being on the coast? Imagine: "Yes, we're going to Doncaster-on-Sea for our holiday this year." Yes, around the late 80s there was a big piece in most of the papers with maps showing Britain in 2070. Doncaster was on a little island. Would be nice to see it again if anyone can find it. There have been lots of places lost to the sea over the centuries - Doggerland, Lyonesse, Dunwich (partly) and many places on the East Coast. This map compared how much has been lost in just a century: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.8778&lon=-0.1355&layers=6&right=BingSat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 explain it, please. Weather is day to day. A single summer heat wave, or cold winter, is down to the weather. Climate is the long term trend (usually 30 years). If winters get on average milder or summers wetter, then that is climate. We can't look at a single event and put that down to climate change, but we can look at the long term averages and see if they are changing. A changing climate will affect the typical weather that one might expect, but it is illogical to suggest that because we had a hot Wednesday in 1808 than then that somehow refutes climate change. ---------- Post added 11-01-2018 at 12:27 ---------- When the planet cools that's global warming too. Talk about having all bases covered. The sea is rising - it's just that there's no observable evidence of it. Just trust the talking heads......baa,baa... Except the tidal gauges which show the sea level rise, only you won't accept that as 'observable evidence' because it doesn't fit with your extremely warped (or flat) view of the world.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Weather is day to day. A single summer heat wave, or cold winter, is down to the weather. Climate is the long term trend (usually 30 years). If winters get on average milder or summers wetter, then that is climate. We can't look at a single event and put that down to climate change, but we can look at the long term averages and see if they are changing. A changing climate will affect the typical weather that one might expect, but it is illogical to suggest that because we had a hot Wednesday in 1808 than then that somehow refutes climate change. ---------- Post added 11-01-2018 at 12:27 ---------- Except the tidal gauges which show the sea level rise, only you won't accept that as 'observable evidence' because it doesn't fit with your extremely warped (or flat) view of the world.. Sheffield climate station data. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/stationdata/sheffielddata.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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