ECCOnoob Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) My god, a bit long winded, War and Peace springs to mind. Its not an old chestnut, if reporting on Skeggy be in Skeggy and not in Teneriefy or Lanzarote . People have a right to grumble when their Lisence fee is being miss used. A previous quote from Martin Clunes on the holiday show, Its great being here in Paradise on Lisence payers money. Mind you at least he was in the country he was reporting on. As you will be aware from when you raised this exact same argument in your January 2016 post, the point I am arguing is that licence fee monies are NOT being misused. Its the cost of making a television broadcast which us feeble minded viewers expect and demand. Yes, I concede that specific report you refer may well have been on somewhere in the UK. BUT the remainder of the show and/or further episodes refer to other destinations including abroad. You dont need to be a tv expert to know that the presenters will record dozens of links for different topics in a single filming session in a single place - that's how they can get 8-10 episodes out of just a couple of days on location. As I said earlier, if the overall narrative to be portrayed is "holidays" our minds expect to see a holiday image. The producers will know full well that image would be far more towards a nice Spanish beach rather than a wet pavement in skegness. The same reason applies why a report on some retail issue must always be filmed in a big supermarket or department store. Any car complaint must be always be filmed in a mechancis garage or dealership compound. Yes they could absolutely save money just sitting at a desk with pictures behind them - but that is not the image we viewers expect to see. Its all about keeping attention, keeping narrative and keeping viewing figures up. Three old boilers doing nothing but sitting behind a desk hardly has the visual appeal or hook as multiple locations and constant feeder images. Whether you agree or not, there is no denying that is how the majority of viewers minds work and exactly why television companies spend money obtaining and producing such things. Why else would they do it? They are business operations after all. Alleging "oooh what a waste of money" could be applied to lots of aspects of television production but cheapen it too much and viewers zap away all that effort, expense and time at the single click of a remote. Now being as its a one year anniversary shall we just agree to disagree on this one. ---------- Post added 08-01-2018 at 00:00 ---------- More fool anyone for actually paying for a licence to watch it In the first place Why don't the bbc just have adverts and scrap the licence Firstly, what makes you think that putting adverts on the BBC would remove the licence fee. There are television licences active in many other countries but they still have ads. Secondly, making the BBC fully commerical would have massive consequences as has been argued on many other threads of this forum. There are entire types of programming which would be wiped out deemed not profitable, all the specialist access services and disability services would be chopped, your web services would disappear behind paywalls or lengthy advertising blocks. That's before we get on to the dozens of local and national radio services, news services, politics broadcasts, contribtutions to the national broadband rollout, broadcast infrastructure and minority language stations which the licence fee pays for. See how long ITV / C4 / Sky and Viacom (C5) will absorb those costs before hitting the wider consumers financially or in quality. Be careful what you wish for. Edited January 8, 2018 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 A load go cruising in France for the umpteenth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Its Criminal. Why is it? Its television. Commerical television at that too. Advertisers pay the channel. Channel makes programmes. Programmes pay celebs to star in it. Celebs attract viewers. Viewers watch it and increase the advertisers audience. Advertisers keep paying money to channel. Round and round it goes. Why blame the producers or the channel? If WE the public watch it and keep being attracted to it, they will keep making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 These programes make my blood boil. Why send this lot who have plenty of money, Christine horrible Hamilton, Ann posh face Diamond and Ainsley I want the Lime light Harriot ect on holiday when Orphans from places like Bernadoes or Pensioners or Genuine hard up people need oppertunaties like this. Its all flippin wrong. Not that I have looked into it, and neither will I, as this isn't the type of programme that I watch - this bold - I'd guess most people who do these things need money / or have money but are out of work and want to work for money on TV. Why is it? Its television. Commerical television at that too. Advertisers pay the channel. Channel makes programmes. Programmes pay celebs to star in it. Celebs attract viewers. Viewers watch it and increase the advertisers audience. Advertisers keep paying money to channel. Round and round it goes. Why blame the producers or the channel? If WE the public watch it and keep being attracted to it, they will keep making it. and this ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 These programes make my blood boil. Why send this lot who have plenty of money, Christine horrible Hamilton, Ann posh face Diamond and Ainsley I want the Lime light Harriot ect on holiday when Orphans from places like Bernadoes or Pensioners or Genuine hard up people need oppertunaties like this. Its all flippin wrong. How much of it did you watch or did you just catch the ad for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 How much of it did you watch or did you just catch the ad for it? If any sense none of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 How much of it did you watch or did you just catch the ad for it? Watched all of five minuets, all I could bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Watched all of five minuets, all I could bare. Was it at that point you wrestled the zapper off your life partner and put something better on? Im trying to understand how it arrived on your TV screen in the first place. It cant have sounded appealing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Was it at that point you wrestled the zapper off your life partner and put something better on? Im trying to understand how it arrived on your TV screen in the first place. It cant have sounded appealing! True, I Shouldnt have bothered really. Owt like this just winds me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 She and others like her have made their Dosh give the youngens a chance. Its the same in other jobs they should make Men and Women retire at Sixty. Lets get these youngens earning a Crust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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