£100 million bonus for Persimmon boss.

[I1L2T3]

I too vowed never to vote Labour again thanks to the machinations of one Tony Blair. However this Tory government has allowed situations such as this to arise once too often, and show such a distinct disregard for doing anything about it, that they just have to go. And the sooner the better.

 

You better hope Labour has genuinely changed then, because this kind of thing could easily have happened last time they were in power.

 

Never forget the words of Mandelaon on the subject of people getting filthy rich.

[Anna B]

You better hope Labour has genuinely changed then, because this kind of thing could easily have happened last time they were in power.

 

Never forget the words of Mandelaon on the subject of people getting filthy rich.

 

I believe under Jeremy Corbyn the Labour party has changed, and is now genuinely for the many, not the few. I also think his pragmatic approach and willingness to listen will hold it steady.

[Supertramp]

I believe under Jeremy Corbyn the Labour party has changed, and is now genuinely for the many, not the few. I also think his pragmatic approach and willingness to listen will hold it steady.

 

I don't know about that. But I wish people would stop making politics about one line catchphrases.

Obviously some PR person has told them this is what eggs them votes but if Corbyn says for the many, not the few once more, I will go berserk.

[Harrystottle]

Housebuilding. Now there's a subject.

All the pressure is at the bottom of the market, but most new builds seem to follow this pattern.

Find a nice leafy area with a good name.

Buy land on the fringes of the existing village / town.

Sling up four and five bed detached houses which you can then charge top dollar for.

 

This strategy is going on as we speak with a massive development proposed around Green Hammerton, N Yorks and in a 300 acre development proposed by the Earl of Bathhurst on the edges of Cirencester, a development will will increse the size of the town by 25%.

 

This is not going to solve the affordable housing crisis.

 

There was a little snippet on the BBC recently about Jaywick, a deprived coastal town on the Essex coast. Some of the houses were built as holiday cottages for Londoners a long time ago and are in dire need of demolition prior to the area being redeveloped. Problem - developers don't want to touch Jaywick. Bad name you see - not enough profit.

 

So loath though I am to trust politicians with anything, some sort of state agency needs to get in there are redevelop the place.

 

While they are at it they can consider the fact that houses are needed where jobs are. The population of Liverpool has halved since 1932. Plenty of room for houses there, but not enough jobs. Either let the south east of England get more and more houses or try and work out some sort of national industrial strategy to generate jobs where land is cheaper and so will the houses be. This could regenerate the old industrial cities of the midlands and north.

 

I'll not hold my breath though.

[alchresearch]

I believe under Jeremy Corbyn the Labour party has changed, and is now genuinely for the many, not the few. I also think his pragmatic approach and willingness to listen will hold it steady.

 

Willing to listen - when it suits him:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=corbyn+ignores&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB773GB773&oq=corbyn+ignores&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2391j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

He can't control his MPs or followers at the moment. I don't think things will change if he gets in to power. There will always be MP scandal after scandal, no matter what party is in and who the PM is.

[Anna B]

I don't know about that. But I wish people would stop making politics about one line catchphrases.

Obviously some PR person has told them this is what eggs them votes but if Corbyn says for the many, not the few once more, I will go berserk.

 

Actually, I agree. But Jeremy's obviously been told he has to have a snappy catchphrase to compete with Theresa May's 'strong and stable,' and the despicable David Cameron's much used Tory phrase '...this mess (the financial crash,) the Labour government got us into..'

 

Anyone with any political interest knows that politics cannot be summed up in a handy soundbite, but unfortunately most people are not interested, and will turn off when required to listen to anything longer.

 

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Willing to listen - when it suits him:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=corbyn+ignores&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB773GB773&oq=corbyn+ignores&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2391j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

He can't control his MPs or followers at the moment. I don't think things will change if he gets in to power. There will always be MP scandal after scandal, no matter what party is in and who the PM is.

That all depends on whether they can control the media or not. What scandals get reported etc is very much in the hands of the editor.

 

You can bet your life that the slightest glitch in the Labour party will get reported in giant, apocalyptic headlines, and if they can tie JC into it, so much the better. Meanwhile Saint Theresa will continue to get a relatively easy ride.

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[area 51]

Actually, I agree. But Jeremy's obviously been told he has to have a snappy catchphrase to compete with Theresa May's 'strong and stable,' and the despicable David Cameron's much used Tory phrase '...this mess (the financial crash,) the Labour government got us into..'

 

Anyone with any political interest knows that politics cannot be summed up in a handy soundbite, but unfortunately most people are not interested, and will turn off when required to listen to anything longer.

 

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That all depends on whether they can control the media or not. What scandals get reported etc is very much in the hands of the editor.

 

You can bet your life that the slightest glitch in the Labour party will get reported in giant, apocalyptic headlines, and if they can tie JC into it, so much the better. Meanwhile Saint Theresa will continue to get a relatively easy ride.

 

What we really need is a party for working people,when i was a lad it was the Labour party but it appears to now be a party for the middle class champagne socialist protester.They claim to care about those poor people and like to do charity work for them.It doesn't cut no ice with me and this is why i am reluctant to vote for Labour.They said that if Jeremy Corbyn gets to be labour leader the working people will get their party back,i am not sure about this.All his hangers on worry me.Its probably all a jolly jape for the champagners because if it all goes wrong they will still be alright.I keep struggling with this and so i abstained from the last election.

[Anna B]

What we really need is a party for working people,when i was a lad it was the Labour party but it appears to now be a party for the middle class champagne socialist protester.They claim to care about those poor people and like to do charity work for them.It doesn't cut no ice with me and this is why i am reluctant to vote for Labour.They said that if Jeremy Corbyn gets to be labour leader the working people will get their party back,i am not sure about this.All his hangers on worry me.Its probably all a jolly jape for the champagners because if it all goes wrong they will still be alright.I keep struggling with this and so i abstained from the last election.

 

Please do some research of your own on Jeremy Corbyn. Look into his background and see his Wikipedia entry etc. Also go and see him if you get the chance. He's impressive. Or listen to some of his speeches or interviews on the internet. I don't trust anything I see written or reported about him as it's usually been distorted to suit a particular agenda, (mainly anti-Corbyn.) He's not at all as he is portrayed by a hostile (Tory run) media. He's shrewd but has always been his own man.

 

He only stood for office because he was disillusioned with the Blairite semi- Tory Labour party of Tony Blair, and felt the working class electorate no longer had anyone to represent them, so he stepped forward. He has integrity, honesty, experience and really is the genuine article. I think he deserves a chance.

[Mister M]

What we really need is a party for working people,when i was a lad it was the Labour party but it appears to now be a party for the middle class champagne socialist protester.They claim to care about those poor people and like to do charity work for them.It doesn't cut no ice with me and this is why i am reluctant to vote for Labour.They said that if Jeremy Corbyn gets to be labour leader the working people will get their party back,i am not sure about this.All his hangers on worry me.Its probably all a jolly jape for the champagners because if it all goes wrong they will still be alright.I keep struggling with this and so i abstained from the last election.

 

The Labour Party from its very formation always has had middle class support (the Fabians, The Webbs etc.) They are always going to be there.

I don't view them with the same cynicism.

Polly Toynbee, who takes a great deal of flack for being the archetypal middle class leftish (though definitely not socialist), is also a fantastic polemicist and writes brilliantly about core issues such as poor pay. Her book 'Hard Work' is a fantastic read.

Of course people like that will be cushioned from the worst effect of global meltdowns or high interest rates. Rich Tories and Liberals will be too, but no-one questions their motives, or the sincerity with which they hold their views.

I'm pleased that the Labour Party is a broad church of people from diverse backgrounds. I wouldn't want it any other way.

[Anna B]

The Labour Party from its very formation always has had middle class support (the Fabians, The Webbs etc.) They are always going to be there.

I don't view them with the same cynicism.

Polly Toynbee, who takes a great deal of flack for being the archetypal middle class leftish (though definitely not socialist), is also a fantastic polemicist and writes brilliantly about core issues such as poor pay. Her book 'Hard Work' is a fantastic read.

Of course people like that will be cushioned from the worst effect of global meltdowns or high interest rates. Rich Tories and Liberals will be too, but no-one questions their motives, or the sincerity with which they hold their views.

I'm pleased that the Labour Party is a broad church of people from diverse backgrounds. I wouldn't want it any other way.

 

Excellent post!