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In 1939 Ralph and John are living at 275 Abbeydale Road. They are with Frank and

Alice Bellamy and their children May, Frank and Stanley Bellamy. Alice was previoulsy

married to Thomas Downing, but Thomas died in 1917 aged 28yrs.

Mabel married Joseph Fleming and in 1939 they are living at 235 Abbeydale Road.

With them is son Michael.

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Hi Moirahyde. John was my father and did indeed live with the Bellamys on Abbydale rd. Mable and Joe retired to Casleton. And I have found and visited there grave. I have searched for Thomas grave and found it to be in Burngreave cemetry ,i got the grave number and area but as no marker was on it I couldn't find it. Many questions about him. Died in 1917 but what of, why was he not involved with the war, or was he? I think he died in a workhouse and is in a porpers gave. Any more info is appreciated. David.

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Hi David,

 

You could order the death certificate for Thomas from the GRO. The reference is

June quarter 1917, Sheffield, 9c 696. If Thomas was in the Fir Vale Union, the hospital part of it was separated from the rest of the buildings in 1906.

As Thomas was a boiler maker, he might have been exempt from taking part in the war,

as were steel makers and coal miners.

 

Here is the marriage:

1 August 1909, St.Mary's, Bramall Lane.

Thomas Downing, 20yrs, bat, Boiler maker of 11/8 Hermitage St. father, Thomas Downing,

engine tenter.

Alice Poyser, 20yrs, spin, of 11/8 Hermitage St. father, William Poyser, Joiner.

 

1911 census - court 3 1h, Gower Street, Sheffield.

Thomas Downing, head, mar, 22yrs, Boiler rivetter, born Sheffield.

Alice Downing, wife, 22yrs, born Sheffield.

Thomas Poyser, son, 4yrs, born Sheffield.

Married 1 year, 2 children born alive, 1 still living, 1 died.

(Son William aged 13 months, died at 2/2 Clun St. buried 14 Nov 1910 and is in the same

grave as his father Thomas).

 

Moira.

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Moirahyde. Thanks for the info ,I now know more about Tom and Alice than ever before as my mum never hit it it off with my Gran / her mother in law. Where did you get all this info and where can I look for more as my tree stops on that side with my dad.

 

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Hi Lucy thanks for the reply but John never had daughters only two sons however im shure there must be a distant connection somewhere.

 

David.

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Hi David,

 

To find births, marriages and deaths you can use 'FreeBMD'. The site is free, but,

Sheffield is split into sections, Sheffield, Ecclesall Bierlow and Wortley. I usually

search Yorkshire West Riding to narrow it down.

There is also the 'Sheffield Indexers' site which is also free. Then there is 'Family Search'

also free but you have to register.

I have a subscription to Findmypast, which has good coverage of the Yorkshire area.

 

Thomas Downing, baptised 10 July 1889, All Saints, Brightside, Sheffield.

Parents, Thomas and Sarah of Carlisle St. East, Engine tenter.

 

Here are some census entries for the Downing's.

 

1901 census - 152 Carlisle Street East, Sheffield, Brightside Bierlow.

Thomas Downing, 56yrs, Engine tenter hard stationary, born Bolton on Dearne, Yks.

Sarah Downing, wife, 55yrs, born Barnetby, Lincoln.

Joseph Downing, son 16yrs, General labourer, born Thurnscoe, Yks.

Thomas Downing, son, 12yrs, born Sheffield.

 

In the 1891 census the family are living at 3 court 12 Carlisle St. East.

As well as Joseph and Thomas, there is daughter Emma, 17yrs, born Thurnscoe, Yks

 

In 1881 the family are at Back Lane Cottages,Thurnscoe, Yks.

Thomas Downing, 35yrs, engine driver, wife Sarah 34yrs.

Children: Annie 13, born Mexbro, Emma 7 born Thurnscoe, Sarah Ann 3 born Thurnscoe

and John Edward 5 months, born Thurnscoe.

 

In 1871 they are living at 25 Marshall St, Sheffield.

There is also a daughter Mary aged 5yrs.

 

Using FreeBMD, there is a marriage in the December quarter of 1864 for a

Thomas Downing to a Sarah Brown. Ref: Sheffield 9c 661.

I can't find this marriage online.

 

Moira.

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