ez8004 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So a 16 year old in the army is capable of taking a human life and able to mentally handle this and not able to decide which MP they want. ---------- Post added 31-01-2018 at 16:06 ---------- 16 year old adopted children can't get their birth certificate but Labour and the SNP want them to vote. What does this have to do with the price of tea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So a 16 year old in the army is capable of taking a human life and able to mentally handle this and not able to decide which MP they want. ---------- Post added 31-01-2018 at 16:06 ---------- What does this have to do with the price of tea? No they aren't. This has already been discussed. You are not allowed to serve on the front line until you are 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 A whole load of "well, they can only do it if x". They can legally start a family. They can leave full time education and work full time. They can leave home. We should have a consistent definition of the age of citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 A whole load of "well, they can only do it if x". They can legally start a family. They can leave full time education and work full time. They can leave home. We should have a consistent definition of the age of citizenship. They can't buy alcohol They can't drive (unless receiving mobility allowance) They can't buy cigarettes They can't serve on the front line They can't stand as an MP They can't get a tattoo They can't get married without parental consent They are legally defined as children Citizenship and the right to vote don't go hand in hand. 5 year olds are citizens, but they can't vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 We should have a consistent definition of the age of citizenship. Before that I think we need a consistent legal definition of what citizenship is as it is not clearly defined in the UK. What is legally defined though is that we are classed as subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 They can't buy alcohol They can't drive (unless receiving mobility allowance) They can't buy cigarettes They can't serve on the front line They can't stand as an MP They can't get a tattoo They can't get married without parental consent They are legally defined as children Citizenship and the right to vote don't go hand in hand. 5 year olds are citizens, but they can't vote. But in Cap'n C's world, at one minute past midnight yesterday's 15 year old will be a fully fledged adult and she can drive herself (window down to let the fag smoke out of the Corsa ) to the army careers office and sign up to be shot at by Islamic State without telling dad. She can even buy a personal protection machete and get a Hello Sailor Boys tattoo on the way there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 This discussion should never have been framed from the perspective of "well, 16 year olds can do x, y and z". It should always have been up to the "they shouldn't have the vote" to justify it. So go ahead. Why shouldn't they have the vote? Robin noun 1. the state of being vested with the rights, privileges, and duties of a I meant in the formal sense. Not just in the sense of identifying nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Before that I think we need a consistent legal definition of what citizenship is as it is not clearly defined in the UK. What is legally defined though is that we are classed as subjects. Well, if working is the definition; pensioners wont get the vote Over 80/90 year olds are very out of touch, but they get to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 This discussion should never have been framed from the perspective of "well, 16 year olds can do x, y and z". It should always have been up to the "they shouldn't have the vote" to justify it. So go ahead. Why shouldn't they have the vote? Robin I meant in the formal sense. Not just in the sense of identifying nationality. A superb example of cognitive dissonance. Its all been laid out in super plain language but you say that you still don't see it! Maybe RobinH will indulge you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 No they aren't. This has already been discussed. You are not allowed to serve on the front line until you are 18. So only frontline troops can take human lives? Fatalities can’t possibly happen anywhere else right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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