Guest makapaka Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 This has nothing to do with labour - it’s just some affected middle class youths without a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Affected middle class youths without a brain . You like your name calling but you cant hide the fact that these are Labour/ Momentum activists . Its All to do with labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Affected middle class youths without a brain . You like your name calling but you cant hide the fact that these are Labour/ Momentum activists . Its All to do with labour Supporters not activists, it's not a Labour action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 I've had another think about the thread title and after watching the video again I'm happy that it remains as Black Lives Matter for the simple reason that they are reciting BLM mantras about being slaves in chains. I'll ignore the fact that they are middle class well educated kids from comfortable homes enjoying the freedoms that a centrist capitalist system brings, and not slaves. But if enough posters want a compromise title of Corbyn's Labour Supporter's Black Lives Matter protest Churchill theme cafe then please say so and I will ask the moderators to change it. That should make everyone happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I've had another think about the thread title and after watching the video again I'm happy that it remains as Black Lives Matter for the simple reason that they are reciting BLM mantras about being slaves in chains. I'll ignore the fact that they are middle class well educated kids from comfortable homes enjoying the freedoms that a centrist capitalist system brings, and not slaves. But if enough posters want a compromise title of Corbyn's Labour Supporter's Black Lives Matter protest Churchill theme cafe then please say so and I will ask the moderators to change it. That should make everyone happy. Do you agree with the notion that Churchill said and did some very reprehensible things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Do you agree with the notion that Churchill said and did some very reprehensible things? Yes I do. That needs to be offset by the other things that don't even need saying. Next. Do you agree that the Corbyn / Labour / BLM / whatever cafe protesters said and did some very reprehensible things too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yes I do. That needs to be offset by the other things that don't even need saying. Next. Do you agree that the Corbyn / Labour / BLM / whatever cafe protesters said and did some very reprehensible things too? Dunno; haven't read up about what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Dunno; haven't read up about what happened. Have a watch at the video in the first post. You'll probably raise an eyebrow, especially as it turns out that the cafe is basically a social enterprise and community hub. It's destructive identity politics again I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Have a watch at the video in the first post. You'll probably raise an eyebrow, especially as it turns out that the cafe is basically a social enterprise and community hub. It's destructive identity politics again I'm afraid. It's a bit cringeworthy and ill thought out. But there was no abusive language, threats, or violence. Bit of a storm in a tea cup really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 It's a bit cringeworthy and ill thought out. But there was no abusive language, threats, or violence. Bit of a storm in a tea cup really. I agree with you. That's the thing, it was a silly thing to do that didn't achieve anything towards their aims. What they did manage to do was create an adverse reaction that's only going to entrench the world view of people who aren't as liberally minded as you and I. At best they are dismissed as silly kids. At worst, they cause an opposite, equal (or worse) reaction. We've seen this kind of upscaling of ridiculous political activity in the USA starting on campus (Yale / Berkeley) spreading to the streets (Charlottesville) and it's not going well. It's coming here, starting with this sort of silly student protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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