SnailyBoy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'm not sure what's wrong with the best person for the job on merit getting it.. Maybe what's wrong is when the BAME candidate is the best person for the job on merit, but they don't get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think I'll just start identifying myself as black to widen my career opportunities. Did you see this? https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/woman-who-born-white-identifies-11285096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 [nazi blather] very similar to current BBC recruitment policy, to exclude applicants based on race. No-one is being excluded based on race. If you could pull of that trick of reading and comprehending, you would know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Maybe what's wrong is when the BAME candidate is the best person for the job on merit, but they don't get it? Are you suggesting that an organisation wanting to use positive descrimination,such as the Beeb, wouldn't already give the job to the BAME candidate if they are the best fit? That doesn't make sense..it seems to me that they're just doing it for "quotas"..IMO anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Are you suggesting that an organisation wanting to use positive descrimination,such as the Beeb, wouldn't already give the job to the BAME candidate if they are the best fit? That doesn't make sense..it seems to me that they're just doing it for "quotas"..IMO anyway. No, I'm suggesting that it starts to address the issue. When candidates don't get interviews in a 'normal' selection process based on their name, there's still someway to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Are you suggesting that an organisation wanting to use positive descrimination,such as the Beeb, wouldn't already give the job to the BAME candidate if they are the best fit? That doesn't make sense.. It only doesn't make sense if you assume racism doesn't exist. it seems to me that they're just doing it for "quotas"..IMO anyway. Exactly this, because they want their workforce and their output to reflect the diversity of the audience. For whatever reason that wasn't happening via the "do nothing" approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It only doesn't make sense if you assume racism doesn't exist. Exactly this, because they want their workforce and their output to reflect the diversity of the audience. For whatever reason, that wasn't happening via the "do nothing" approach. So they aren't interested in "best for the job" if that happens to not be a BAME candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 So they aren't interested in "best for the job" if that happens to not be a BAME candidate? Well, the BAME canididate has to get an interview to stand any chance of being the best candidate, there's plenty of evidence showing that isn't always the case. As before, if this is not the way to go to address these issues, what is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Well, the BAME canididate has to get an interview to stand any chance of being the best candidate, there's plenty of evidence showing that isn't always the case. As before, if this is not the way to go to address these issues, what is? Don't know,how about no names on application forms? It seems that you're advocating one possible lot of discrimination for another.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 10 years ago I applied for a job by a govt employer. The interview process took 2 years and I was eventually offered a place on a training course along with 9 others. One of the successful candidates was a male who had only applied 3 months previously and had help and guidance with regards the interviews and candidate assessments which was denied to other candidates. This apparently was Affimative Action! His constant bragging about the time from application to employment was a source of irritation to other applicants and he was actually quite dense. It was obvious that he was not absorbing the information being taught as he was failing weekly progress tests and was eventually ‘let go’. Every other candidate who had gone through the full applicant assessments and interviews without help or input passed the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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