UKIP could go bankrupt

[Jonny5]

If Labour had sued them out of existence 2/3 years ago when UKIP were riding the crest of a wave (of excrement) then yeah it would be a massive problem.

 

But if Labour sue them out of existence now I think all they'd be doing is knocking a few bricks of a building that's already been demolished.

 

UKIP are finished as a political party now. Nige milked that cash cow until it was dry.

[Naive]

If Labour had sued them out of existence 2/3 years ago when UKIP were riding the crest of a wave (of excrement) then yeah it would be a massive problem.

 

But if Labour sue them out of existence now I think all they'd be doing is knocking a few bricks of a building that's already been demolished.

 

UKIP are finished as a political party now. Nige milked that cash cow until it was dry.

 

Labour aren’t suing anyone. Let’s be clear about that.

 

We’ve got enough obfuscation from ENG, without any more from anywhere else

[ENG601PM]

If Labour had sued them out of existence 2/3 years ago when UKIP were riding the crest of a wave (of excrement) then yeah it would be a massive problem.

 

But if Labour sue them out of existence now I think all they'd be doing is knocking a few bricks of a building that's already been demolished.

 

UKIP are finished as a political party now. Nige milked that cash cow until it was dry.

 

A good point well made. I still think that the essential point stands but as you say it's very much looking like the end of the line of it's own accord. In some respects that could creates a totem for adherents to gather around and I do have concerns about what might rise from the ashes under the scenario if it comes to pass.

[tinfoilhat]

You're still not getting it Bob, and it's been explained to you a few times now. It's all there in my first few posts if you could just stop projecting for a moment or two. Let's try again. Forget the UKIP farce for a moment, imagine you never heard about it so we can get some basic principles in place. Think big picture for just a moment.

 

First, if a political party fizzles out because it is no longer relevant that is an excellent result for democracy working as it should do. Good ideas winning out and all that jazz.

 

Second, if a political party is extinguished by the actions of another party that's bad for democracy and the millions of people who still find it relevant. Disenfranchised citizens are bad for democracy, and I would say society in general.

 

Third, bad ideas don't just go away, and they are reinforced when marginalised. Bad ideas often find other, more extreme outlets.

 

 

I don't want to go all Godwin, but you're a clever chap, you know how it can work. Labour being seen to extinguish UKIP might not be the best idea. It doesn't matter if YOU or I understand the strict legal cause and effects (like I said, bills, whoopydoo) , the optics are poor to democracy. Take a slightly more overarching philosophical view in your reply if possible, don't just come back with "yea, but, bills, libel, stuff".

 

So despite a well worded argument, you see no merit in it all and just want people to agree with you. The only opinion you want is the same one as yours.

 

You need to word your thread titles more carefully in future, it will save loads of time and effort.

Edited February 19, 2018 by tinfoilhat

[Bob Arctor]

You're still not getting it Bob, and it's been explained to you a few times now. It's all there in my first few posts if you could just stop projecting for a moment or two. Let's try again. Forget the UKIP farce for a moment, imagine you never heard about it so we can get some basic principles in place. Think big picture for just a moment.

 

First, if a political party fizzles out because it is no longer relevant that is an excellent result for democracy working as it should do. Good ideas winning out and all that jazz.

 

Second, if a political party is extinguished by the actions of another party that's bad for democracy and the millions of people who still find it relevant. Disenfranchised citizens are bad for democracy, and I would say society in general.

 

Third, bad ideas don't just go away, and they are reinforced when marginalised. Bad ideas often find other, more extreme outlets.

 

 

I don't want to go all Godwin, but you're a clever chap, you know how it can work. Labour being seen to extinguish UKIP might not be the best idea. It doesn't matter if YOU or I understand the strict legal cause and effects (like I said, bills, whoopydoo) , the optics are poor to democracy. Take a slightly more overarching philosophical view in your reply if possible, don't just come back with "yea, but, bills, libel, stuff".

 

Yeah, but bills, libel, stuff

[Jonny5]

Labour aren’t suing anyone. Let’s be clear about that.

 

We’ve got enough obfuscation from ENG, without any more from anywhere else

I was being rhetorical Sibon

[sgtkate]

Yeah, but bills, libel, stuff

 

Or in other words, the law.

[ENG601PM]

So despite a well worded argument, you see no merit in it all and just want people to agree with you. The only opinion you want is the same one as yours.

 

You need to word your thread titles more carefully in future, it will save loads of time and effort.future.

 

Yeah, but bills, libel, stuff

 

You really don't have anything better to offer?

 

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Or in other words, the law.

 

The law is created and upheld with the consent of the people in a democracy, which takes us back to the OP.

[tinfoilhat]

You really don't have anything better to offer?

 

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Well, I did but you didn't read it, or you read it but it didn't register because it didn't agree with your view.

[ENG601PM]

Well, I did but you didn't read it, or you read it but it didn't register because it didn't agree with your view.

 

Sorry if I missed it tinfoilhat. There are a lots of posts here so please let me have a link to your post and I'll take the time to read and respond.