SnailyBoy Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You might work with children and no doubt are a good person with good motives, but you or anyone else can't say a an unborn child would choose to be brought up by a same sex couple rather than a conventional man woman couple, which is still the normal natural scenario in the World we live in. A natural world where an unborn child gets to choose? Sounds perfectly rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Im sure if I was an unborn baby Id just want to be born into a family that loved me, where Id be secure and looked after. Just because a couple is a man and woman doesnt mean theyd be good parents. Im sure an awful lot of thought has gone into Tom and his partner becoming parents, how many 'normal' couples get caught and end up with babies they didnt particularly want? Every scenario can have its good examples and its bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 It is you and many others, who have lost the plot because the most important person in this scenario is the unborn baby, who you failed to mention. The baby who will be brought up by two loving, married parents. You've not managed to explain what exactly the problem is here? ---------- Post added 17-02-2018 at 22:15 ---------- You might work with children and no doubt are a good person with good motives, but you or anyone else can't say a an unborn child would choose to be brought up by a same sex couple rather than a conventional man woman couple, which is still the normal natural scenario in the World we live in. Unborn, or born, children can't choose anything. They don't have the capacity for a start, and they literally get no choice. They don't choose parents, they don't choose whether they'll have a mum and dad, or a dad and a dad, or just one, or perhaps neither. If you're having to resort to "natural scenario" I think you've lost this discussion thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 When that kid goes to school they are going to be picked on , called names , tormented and bullied. At parents evening when dad and dad turn up , the other kids will have a field day . You do realise it is 2018 now not 1968. Homosexuality has been legal for 50 years. Civil Partnerships legal for nearly 15 years and full gay marraige legal for approaching 5 years. Gay Parents will be the next natural step and whole generations of those schoolkids will see nothing different from it. Just like post internet generations before then and the current batch of post smart phone generations of kids. Those schoolkids are and will be far more sophisticated, understanding and tolerant regarding a persons gender and sexuality than bigoted dinosaurs like you would be in a lifetime. Quite frankly your comments disgust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You do realise it is 2018 now not 1968. Homosexuality has been legal for 50 years. Civil Partnerships legal for nearly 15 years and full gay marraige legal for approaching 5 years. Gay Parents will be the next natural step and whole generations of those schoolkids will see nothing different from it. Just like post internet generations before then and the current batch of post smart phone generations of kids. Those schoolkids are and will be far more sophisticated, understanding and tolerant regarding a persons gender and sexuality than bigoted dinosaurs like you would be in a lifetime. Quite frankly your comments disgust me. The vast majority of these kids will come from normal families with a mother and father , so to them seeing a kid with two dads will not seem normal at all to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) The vast majority of these kids will come from normal families with a mother and father , so to them seeing a kid with two dads will not seem normal at all to them. Unless their 'normal' family has brought them up to be well rounded, well adjusted, unprejudiced and open minded.. Edited February 17, 2018 by nikki-red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libuse Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I just wonder why they didn’t just post “we’re adopting a baby” or “a surrogate is having our baby”. Instead they posted a picture of them holding an ultrasound saying they were expecting a baby. I’m not offended by it or bothered - but if they didn’t want a reaction from the bigots they went about it the wrong way. What actually does "expecting" mean? It means something is imminent, like in the way I'm expecting a birthday present or a bank statement. It's absolutely accurate. They aren't pregnant or adopting or whatever. They are "expecting a baby." There's literally nothing to see here as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 What actually does "expecting" mean? It means something is imminent, like in the way I'm expecting a birthday present or a bank statement. It's absolutely accurate. They aren't pregnant or adopting or whatever. They are "expecting a baby." There's literally nothing to see here as far as I can tell. exactly, ive said it twice, im expecting the gasman...it got ignored, surprisingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libuse Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Yes, there is a difference. One couple can be man and wife and procreate. One couple can be man and man or woman and woman and cannot. Yes/No. Angel1. So a man-woman marriage that can't procreate is invalid? If they use surrogate etc same as a same sex couple might, what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 So a man-woman marriage that can't procreate is invalid? If they use surrogate etc same as a same sex couple might, what's the difference? dont be silly, thats sort of normal but not weird **** like homosexual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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