willman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 A friend of mine decided to go down the "faith healing" route - in that he had faith in the nuts he grazed on all day, he had faith in loosing 3 stone in a matter of months due to the diet. After his initial diagnosis he didn't visit a GP or hospital until his last days with us. The man was an idiot imho,who had chosen to die and decided not to fight it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 A friend of mine decided to go down the "faith healing" route - in that he had faith in the nuts he grazed on all day, he had faith in loosing 3 stone in a matter of months due to the diet. After his initial diagnosis he didn't visit a GP or hospital until his last days with us. The man was an idiot imho,who had chosen to die and decided not to fight it. Or perhaps he was very brave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Or perhaps he was very brave... Perhaps in your world he was - to everyone else he'd given up as soon as diagnosed. Taking life saving advice from herbalists isn't bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 That's true, but you still haven't understood the context of the risk. Some other Group 1 carcinogens are alcohol, vehicle exhaust, painting and decorating, being a steel worker, hepatitis B, the contraceptive pill, and the sun!!! And you're worried about sausages!!! I'm not remotely worried about sausages, as I have the good sense not to eat them As for processed meat being a group 1 carcinogen, I'm simply passing on what the World Health Organisation have said. What do you think I've misunderstood about the 'context of the risk'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I'm not remotely worried about sausages, as I have the good sense not to eat them As for processed meat being a group 1 carcinogen, I'm simply passing on what the World Health Organisation have said. What do you think I've misunderstood about the 'context of the risk'? If you haven't misunderstood, and you're not worried about sossies, and plutonium, sunshine and going to work are Group 1 carcinogens too, just what is your point? Seems that you're just scaremongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 If you haven't misunderstood, and you're not worried about sossies, and plutonium, sunshine and going to work are Group 1 carcinogens too, just what is your point? Seems that you're just scaremongering. Or perhaps that it's easily possible to avoid sausages and less possible to avoid the others. However that doesn't mean you shouldnt work to limit exposure to iothers as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Or perhaps that it's easily possible to avoid sausages and less possible to avoid the others. However that doesn't mean you shouldnt work to limit exposure to iothers as much as possible. And what's the risk profile of sossies to you, or me, or anyone? I think it was an 18% increase in the risk of coleorectal cancers if you eat more than 400gms a day. But what's your risk of coleorectal cancer in the first place, and how much do you eat, and, and, and I'm not saying stuff yourself with sossies regardless, but I talked about the actual risk, not the scaremongering risk, like this by onewheeldave. Yes, a healthy diet certainly reduces the risk of getting cancer- plenty of evidence for that. Equally, several aspects of the more standard diet are now known to cause cancer, we now know, for example, that processed meat is a class 1 carcinogen. Edited February 26, 2018 by ENG601PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 You can always you know - go look and see what the lifetime risk of colorectal cancer is... Wheres the scaremongering in the facts that were presented above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 You can always you know - go look and see what the lifetime risk of colorectal cancer is... Wheres the scaremongering in the facts that were presented above? See the full edited post to include your answer written while you were asking your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 The bio of the "author" tells you all you need to know: Andrew Von Butz (A. Von Butz) is a freelance writer and health enthusiast who loves exploring the vast world of natural foods and health, digging deep to get to the truth. Andrew Von Butz got his start in freelance writing after discovering first-hand the importance of nutrition and exercise in gaining back his own health. His work is featured in a number of health magazines and newsletters, and he also runs his own media company at http://www.vonbutz.com He runs an online health publication of his own at http://wholesomeherald.blogspot.com. He is also a staff writer for NATURAL LIVING.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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