alchresearch Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 No, but charging people with terror offences that carry a maximum sentence of life imprisonment is grossly disproportionate. They might carry a "maximum sentence of life imprisonment" but can you provide any evidence that this has been applied to these or any previous protesters or urbexers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Did any of these people have a gun or a bomb? Is 'what if' a good enough reason to stop protests? What if the protesters gathering round Sheffield's trees had a gun or a bomb? Standing around a tree is hardly the same as invading a runway and stopping a plane from taking off.. ---------- Post added 23-03-2018 at 10:16 ---------- I think this has been a long time coming. It's like the pieces in a chess game being put into place to curtail our freedoms under the charge of 'Terrorism.' You want the freedom to go and stand on a runway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 You want the freedom to go and stand on a runway? We want the freedom to protest without being arrested on trumped-up terrorism charges. In the US anti-rights activists are being charged under the Patriot Act and being locked up as terrorists. For the 'crime' of breaking into animal agriculture establishments and filming what is inside, they are being arrested and charged as terrorists and receiving very long sentences. Now UK protesters are being similarly arrested as terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 We want the freedom to protest without being arrested on trumped-up terrorism charges. In the US anti-rights activists are being charged under the Patriot Act and being locked up as terrorists. For the 'crime' of breaking into animal agriculture establishments and filming what is inside, they are being arrested and charged as terrorists and receiving very long sentences. Now UK protesters are being similarly arrested as terrorists. Perhaps it's because they are doing things that are considered to be what you know, terrorists do.... You can protest as much as you like outside an airport - no problem with that. If you breach security and go airside without authorisation then you are going to be met with a stiff response. Something to do with a pair of large towers in Manhattan a few years back - makes the authorities rather twitchy and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 We want the freedom to protest without being arrested on trumped-up terrorism charges. In the US anti-rights activists are being charged under the Patriot Act and being locked up as terrorists. For the 'crime' of breaking into animal agriculture establishments and filming what is inside, they are being arrested and charged as terrorists and receiving very long sentences. Now UK protesters are being similarly arrested as terrorists. We're talking about invading a runway on this thread...in the UK...not invading farms in the 'states.. start another thread if you feel that strongly otherwise this will slip off topic (as usual) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 We're talking about invading a runway on this thread...in the UK...not invading farms in the 'states.. start another thread if you feel that strongly otherwise this will slip off topic (as usual) We're talking about the government using terrorist charges for non-terror offences. The fact that US animal rights protesters are being locked up for non-terror offences under misused terrorism laws, just as the UK deportation protesters are, is highly relevant. Additionally, UK photographers have, in the past, when filming police, perfectly legally, been intimidated into stopping, by, again, being threatened with anti-terrorism legislation. i.e. there's a pattern here, and a very dangerous one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 No its not What if one of those lefties had a gun or a bomb they took on the runway ? But they didn't? So they don't sound like terrorists to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Filming the police is a terror offence if you are going to use it for furthering terrorism. The fact that there can be a legitamate other reason makes it a difficult one to call. If you invade an airport, or a company building for purposes that can be related to terrorism then expect to be be charged with it. It's really not difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branyy Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 But they didn't? So they don't sound like terrorists to me. Terrorists can perform an attack even without having bombs or guns. Also, we don't know what they actual intentions were. Anyway, the court will decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 If I remember right, didn't Michael Martin (Speaker of the House of Commons) try to invoke possible 'Terrorism' as an excuse to cover up the MPs expenses scandal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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