Pensioner, 78, arrested on suspicion of murder after suspected burglar

[alchresearch]

The shrine that was erected for the dead burglar has been torn down overnight by locals.

[alchemist]

The shrine that was erected for the dead burglar has been torn down overnight by locals.

 

And quite right. Whoever put it there in the first place should be charged with littering

[Halibut]

And quite right. Whoever put it there in the first place should be charged with littering

 

Is that a view you hold about all roadside shrines or just those for people who've ever been convicted of a criminal offence?

[Olive]

The shrine that was erected for the dead burglar has been torn down overnight by locals.

 

I wondered if that would happen. Good on the locals!

[Halibut]

I wondered if that would happen. Good on the locals!

 

Would you also say that if they desecrated his grave?

[Olive]

Would you also say that if they desecrated his grave?

 

Not at all. This is also their neighbourhood, one where their neighbour has gone through something absolutely terrible. No-one should have to have their noses rubbed in it any further.

 

I can understand the family of the man who was killed wanting to pay their respects. No matter what he did, he's still someone's son, brother, father, friend. But there is not the place.

[alchresearch]

Would you also say that if they desecrated his grave?

 

Two different things completely. Take a look online at the "shrine" and those erecting it and the trespass and criminal damage they've done erecting it, and the fear the other residents in the area are now enduring.

 

But of course, its Travellers and he was "such a good lad who never harmed a fly" so the police turn a blind eye.

[willman]

Is that a view you hold about all roadside shrines or just those for people who've ever been convicted of a criminal offence?

 

Its a view that i hold, it isn't Roman Britain anymore.

 

We've got one near us for a poor innocent lad - high on drugs and booze,no license or insurance.Who ploughed his friends car through a fence,luckily only he's dead and not the passenger.

100yds away is a second one for an innocent guy who lost control of his car.

Neither is appopriate.

[alchemist]

Is that a view you hold about all roadside shrines or just those for people who've ever been convicted of a criminal offence?

 

TBH, it originally was more the later than the former, after all some of the comments made by his relatives does make it look like they are now punishing the homeowner by sticking things all over his fence and rubbing in something that he probably does feel some regret for, and relief that it could so easily have been him who was dead.

 

Then I thought more about it and started to think that these roadside shrines ARE starting to get more and more common as to start missing the point. OK, you want to remember the dead, but does leaving flowers etc where they died help that much? After a few days they start to look tatty and many people will have no idea who they are commemorating. At what point do you stop making or maintaining a shrine? Will we eventually end up with miles of shrines down the motorways where many die? Dangerous roads and junctions made more dangerous by piles of flowers and paper wafting around and being a distraction.

 

So to answer your question, its now the former.

[tinfoilhat]

TBH, it originally was more the later than the former, after all some of the comments made by his relatives does make it look like they are now punishing the homeowner by sticking things all over his fence and rubbing in something that he probably does feel some regret for, and relief that it could so easily have been him who was dead.

 

Then I thought more about it and started to think that these roadside shrines ARE starting to get more and more common as to start missing the point. OK, you want to remember the dead, but does leaving flowers etc where they died help that much? After a few days they start to look tatty and many people will have no idea who they are commemorating. At what point do you stop making or maintaining a shrine? Will we eventually end up with miles of shrines down the motorways where many die? Dangerous roads and junctions made more dangerous by piles of flowers and paper wafting around and being a distraction.

 

So to answer your question, its now the former.

 

Its moved on from just flowers for alot of these roadside shrines, its pictures, fairylights and alsorts.

 

I wonder if its because people are more likely to be cremated and scattered rather than burried and reletives dont have a focal point for their grief?

 

I have a small amount of sympathy for the dead burglars family but its not the place for it.