Don valley Railway

[scottcross]

On 29/10/2023 at 12:26, Irene Swaine said:

Services to Manchester and Liverpool could still run via Chapeltown, Penistone and Huddersfield. In fact, last time I checked, some TransPennine services use this route in early mornings to retain driver knowledge for diversions. It would mean that there'd be no trains to Stockport and crucially, none to the Peak District, Hope, Edale, Chinley etc are already fairly cut off as it is and rely on tourist trade to make a living. 

A Train runs from Manchester airport via Piccadilly ,Huddersfield ,Wakefield then on to Sheffield missing out Meadowhall .This train leaves Piccadilly approx 23-53 arrives in Sheffield 01-25 this is a Trans Pennine .Ive  caught it several times this season returning from night matches in lancashire 

[HeHasRisen]

23 minutes ago, scottcross said:

A Train runs from Manchester airport via Piccadilly ,Huddersfield ,Wakefield then on to Sheffield missing out Meadowhall .This train leaves Piccadilly approx 23-53 arrives in Sheffield 01-25 this is a Trans Pennine .Ive  caught it several times this season returning from night matches in lancashire 

And takes, as you can see, 90 minutes. A significant increase on the usual journey time. No thanks (unless it was the only option)

Edited November 6, 2023 by HeHasRisen

[Guest busdriver1]

On 29/10/2023 at 22:37, Bargepole23 said:

Geordies are from Newcastle, not Stockton, or Darlington, or anywhere between.

Having had the misfortune of being born in Newcastle, the definition we always used was: IQ 1 - 9 = Geordie IQ 10 + Tynesider. 

In case you dont know, the term Geordie has its origins in references to King George and his madness and was used as an insult. 

[scottcross]

On 06/11/2023 at 15:25, HeHasRisen said:

And takes, as you can see, 90 minutes. A significant increase on the usual journey time. No thanks (unless it was the only option)

Its ideal if your team has a midweek game in Lancashire ,

54 minutes ago, busdriver1 said:

Having had the misfortune of being born in Newcastle, the definition we always used was: IQ 1 - 9 = Geordie IQ 10 + Tynesider. 

In case you dont know, the term Geordie has its origins in references to King George and his madness and was used as an insult. 

Could be worse ,you could be from Reed Rae or the Drift same as me and my family

[HeHasRisen]

1 hour ago, scottcross said:

Its ideal if your team has a midweek game in Lancashire ,

 

Oh aye. You certainly wouldnt want every train going that way though

[Bargepole23]

https://www.railtech.com/all/2023/11/30/englands-new-derbyshire-and-south-yorkshire-rail-link-moves-closer/?gdpr=accept

 

Possible enabler for Don Valley rail, as part of the Barrow Hill line is reopening Victoria Station.

[Annie Bynnol]

37 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

https://www.railtech.com/all/2023/11/30/englands-new-derbyshire-and-south-yorkshire-rail-link-moves-closer/?gdpr=accept

Possible enabler for Don Valley rail, as part of the Barrow Hill line is reopening Victoria Station.

   Why would anybody want to use train services to/from Victoria? 

   A new station at Waverley would be served by current services on the Lincoln line.

   

   

   

[Irene Swaine]

The convenience of having a railway service in the Fox Valley would be completely annulled by having it stop/start from Victoria. People would have to walk up the Wicker and on Lady's Bridge to get to Waingate, where all shops have closed. They'd be better off getting the 57 direct to Arundel Gate & Moor Markets. 

[1978]

Complete waste of money when we can't get the MML electrification to Sheffield confirmed with contractors appointed and Sheffield station reconfigured to take more trains.

 

The pinch points in both the Sheaf and Don Valleys also need to be resolved before trying to push more trains through on already crowded corridors for already crowded trains.

 

Priorities. 

[Irene Swaine]

6 minutes ago, 1978 said:

Complete waste of money when we can't get the MML electrification to Sheffield confirmed with contractors appointed and Sheffield station reconfigured to take more trains.

 

The pinch points in both the Sheaf and Don Valleys also need to be resolved before trying to push more trains through on already crowded corridors for already crowded trains.

 

Priorities. 

The Don Valley line will not interfere with the Southern end of Sheffield station and it is unknown/doubtful that it will intertwine with the north end, being undecided if they are going for ANOTHER tram train option or a train terminating at Victoria (pointless). Sheffield Midland has some relief lines around it  which could be used to hold trains for late running/prioritised express services but given that freight trains can block plattorm 6 completely for a significant time with no delays, capacity isn't much of an issue. Some units do head out towards Nunnery/Woodhouse to free up space in turn around times. Electrification is not necessary, or what Network Rail, ORR, DFT and the TOCs should be focussing on. The diesel trains work fine and cope well with the hilly Sheffield terrain.