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Millions of people have contributed to their state pension by paying NI contributions for decades.

One of the "benefits" of working.

 

Millions of people have contributed to their occupational pension by paying contributions for decades.

One of the "benefits" of working.

 

Millions of people planned ahead and made correct decisions which involved putting on average 15% of their income into pensions.

Some could not because of reasons beyond their control and deserve support.

 

Some have not planned ahead.

And yet receive more or less the same pension!

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And yet receive more or less the same pension!

 

No they do not.

 

Your new State Pension has a minimum qualifying time of ten years and you will only get the full amount with 35 years of contributions.

 

The earnings related part has also been abolished.

The "married woman" entitlement has gone.

 

Also those who have planned ahead will have additional pensions organised through work, payed for added years or bought privately. These pensions will be dependent on what you decided to pay in.

 

The full State Pension will not payable to soldiers, firemen, nurses, teachers,

council workers, government workers etc. as they are deemed to have "contracted out".

 

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Its down to equality. The Government must pay the stay at home wives, even though they haven't paid into the system.

 

 

No, this has now ended for new pensioners.

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These people may possibly have sacrificed a lot of their wages throughout their working life to accumulate a good pension pot...why shouldn't they receive the same state pension as those who decided to squander their cash?

 

 

I do hope you aren't suggesting anyone who didn't get a private pension must have "squandered" their cash?

 

 

Plenty of people work most or all their life but never earned enough to afford a mortgage or private pension.

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I do hope you aren't suggesting anyone who didn't get a private pension must have "squandered" their cash?

 

 

Plenty of people work most or all their life but never earned enough to afford a mortgage or private pension.

 

People choose what to do with their income, however big or small.

Some jobs come with an Occupational Pension plan that involves the employee, employer and the Government contributing to an income you when you retire.

All full time jobs come with the ability to pay for the State Pension.

Many people save money for a variety of reasons.

Some people will buy into a fund that will provide a Private Pension

A good way of saving for the future is to use the tax advantages that are associated with pensions.

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Some people work hard all their lives, pay into pension pots, pay NI contributions, then die just after retirement, and then all their hard earned cash goes to the government. My Dad paid what was called super annuation for all his working life and when he died my Mum didn't get any of it.

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As already stated some cannot plan ahead because of reasons beyond their control and deserve support.

 

The vast majority plan ahead and budget for various items, the most important for many is your roof, your old age and your children. Some have other priorities.

 

Neither of these two groups should be expected to pay for those who could but did not plan ahead.

 

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Working and paying NI insurance entitles you to a State Pension.

The amount you earn is reflected in your Occupational Pension.

The amount you choose to set aside on top of these is reflected in your income when retired.

Some of your outgoings when retired will also depend on the choices you made earlier.

If we use trumans example:

You could have had 2 people working side by side and earning the same..one decides to save his cash,the other decides to spend it all..why should the saver not get the same State Pension as the spender? If the save doesn't get the same then he may as well have pee'd it all up the wall just the same..

Then some of those who chose not to plan ahead have paid more in tax by the time they retire (because they spent their money, which will in turn have helped support local businesses etc), so why shouldn't they get the same state pension?

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