Harrystottle Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It was always going to be this way. The people vote to leave, the polticians, civil service and big business are determined that we will not leave. Big picture is (which nobody seems to ever pick up on) os this. In a "representative democracy" how is it that our representatives are actually so unrepresentative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It was always going to be this way. The people vote to leave, the polticians, civil service and big business are determined that we will not leave. Big picture is (which nobody seems to ever pick up on) os this. In a "representative democracy" how is it that our representatives are actually so unrepresentative? MPs are not delegates. Their job is to make the best decisions for the country and their constituents. Hard Brexit is not in the U.K.’s best interests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrystottle Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Fine. Let's go back to the Lord of the Manor being our MP then. He certainly wouldn't be a "delegate" either. I'm not really in favour of paternalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Fine. Let's go back to the Lord of the Manor being our MP then. He certainly wouldn't be a "delegate" either. I'm not really in favour of paternalism. What do you think MPs should do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScripTed Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I'm reasonably happy with the proposal If we don't like it at a future date we can leave anything we've signed up for. Maybe in the future, a party can campaign on any amendments they'd like to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It was always going to be this way. The people vote to leave, the polticians, civil service and big business are determined that we will not leave. Big picture is (which nobody seems to ever pick up on) os this. In a "representative democracy" how is it that our representatives are actually so unrepresentative? Since when was representative democracy ever representative? It's always been a way of maintaining the status quo whilst appearing to give us control over how we are governed by people whose interests are at odds with our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It was always going to be this way. The people vote to leave, the polticians, civil service and big business are determined that we will not leave. When folk vote for unicorns it's hardly surprising they can't be delivered. Big picture is (which nobody seems to ever pick up on) os this. In a "representative democracy" how is it that our representatives are actually so unrepresentative? There's nothing "unrepresentitive" about not being able to deliver the impossible. The real issue is why on earth were these promises ever made, and why did anyone believe them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'm reasonably happy with the proposal If we don't like it at a future date we can leave anything we've signed up for. Maybe in the future, a party can campaign on any amendments they'd like to make. That's an excellent point. President Trump has shown the way to pull out of agreements made by previous administrations. ---------- Post added 08-07-2018 at 08:45 ---------- When folk vote for unicorns it's hardly surprising they can't be delivered. There's nothing "unrepresentitive" about not being able to deliver the impossible. The real issue is why on earth were these promises ever made, and why did anyone believe them! Folk only voted to leave the EU. It''s not impossible for the UK to leave the EU completely, but difficult given the fact the majority of MP's wishes were not the same as the majority of the democratic people's wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 That's an excellent point. President Trump has shown the way to pull out of agreements made by previous administrations. ---------- Post added 08-07-2018 at 08:45 ---------- Folk only voted to leave the EU. It''s not impossible for the UK to leave the EU completely, but difficult given the fact the majority of MP's wishes were not the same as the majority of the democratic people's wishes. But we don’t know the democratic wish of the people in every aspect of leaving the EU. For example, they were never asked if they wanted to leave the Customs Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScripTed Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 But we don’t know the democratic wish of the people in every aspect of leaving the EU. For example, they were never asked if they wanted to leave the Customs Union. This is why the issue is so divisive. All the leading players in the campaign said we would leave the CU. Any denial of this is just lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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