The Consequences of Brexit [part 5] Read 1st post before posting

[I1L2T3]

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Of course it is.

 

The referendum was clear - do we want to be in or out? Not 'do we want to try a little bit of both, chosing just the best bits.' (Not possible as Theresa May has found out.) Or 'do we want a bad deal with just what the EU decide to begrudgingly give us..' (which suits no-one.)

 

In fact the only option that hasn't been tried is the Out with no deal option.

 

Now I'm not saying this would be best, or even possible, but I do liken it to any divorce. It's incredibly scarey at the time, not being sure what's going to happen, or what the future holds, then there's all the agro of having to divide up the home and family, and all the assetts. Awfully Traumatic. But in the end after the dust settles, most people go on to a better future.

Whether it was all worth it, depends on how bad the marriage was in the first place.

 

I don't think another referendum in the middle of proceedings is going to help.

 

There’s no such thing as In or Out.

 

We have 750 separate agreements that underpin our membership. For practical purposes we need to keep practically all of them.

 

In many respects we still need to function as if we are members.

 

EEA/EFTA is the only way out of this mess.

[Car Boot]

Heidi Allen is the latest Conservative MP to back a second referendum because the right wing of the party .John Major speaks out against those seeking to scupper Theresa May.

Us Remainers may yet get our way,because any middle ground is unsatisfactory to almost everybody.

 

A Blairite run second referendum would benefit the Tories by taking the focus off them implementing the June 2016 People's Vote, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election.

 

Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair are working night and day to ensure Jeremy Corbyn doesn't get elected by trying to return British politics to its previous status quo - that is the aim of a second referendum. British and global capitalist interests are completely opposed to the UK leaving the EU.

 

The outcome of the 2016 vote created a crisis of capitalism. Reactionary calls for a second vote only help stabilise the Tories and capitalism.

[altus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45693341

 

This is going to be too high a price to pay.

 

Brexit will be cancelled at this rate.

It would be rather ironic if, after all the claims by brexiters that the German car industry would force the EU into giving a deal they wanted, the UK car industry forces the UK government into negotiating a deal that suits remainers.

[Mister Gee]

A Blairite run second referendum would benefit the Tories by taking the focus off them implementing the June 2016 People's Vote, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election.

 

Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair are working night and day to ensure Jeremy Corbyn doesn't get elected by trying to return British politics to its previous status quo - that is the aim of a second referendum. British and global capitalist interests are completely opposed to the UK leaving the EU.

 

The outcome of the 2016 vote created a crisis of capitalism. Reactionary calls for a second vote only help stabilise the Tories and capitalism.

 

So the likes of Johnson, Mogg and Hannon are trying to destabilize the Tories and capitalism?

[Car Boot]

So the likes of Johnson, Mogg and Hannon are trying to destabilize the Tories and capitalism?

 

Are Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Daniel Hannan now calling for a second referendum 'People's Vote' the same as Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair?

 

A second referendum will try to bring back the political and economic status quo - stabilising the Tory party, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election for Jeremy Corbyn.

Edited September 29, 2018 by Car Boot

[Mister Gee]

Are Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Daniel Hannan now calling for a second referendum 'People's Vote' the same as Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair?

 

A second referendum will try to bring back the political and economic status quo - stabilising the Tory party, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election for Jeremy Corbyn.

 

No, you did say though that "The outcome of the 2016 vote created a crisis of capitalism". Are you telling me that Johnson, Mogg and Hannon are against the political and economic status quo?

[I1L2T3]

Are Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Daniel Hannan now calling for a second referendum 'People's Vote' the same as Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair?

 

A second referendum will try to bring back the political and economic status quo - stabilising the Tory party, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election for Jeremy Corbyn.

 

Project fear

[tinfoilhat]

Are Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Daniel Hannan now calling for a second referendum 'People's Vote' the same as Peter Mandelson and Tony Blair?

 

A second referendum will try to bring back the political and economic status quo - stabilising the Tory party, possibly splitting the Labour party and ensuring there is no early general election for Jeremy Corbyn.

 

So when is the next election going to be? Do you really think if corbyn stamps his feet enough he'll get one early?

 

Lol.

 

There's doesn't need to be an election for about 4 more years. 4 more years of a government, potentially led by Boris Johnson after a hardish Canada style brexit. Imagine the trade deals he'll line up. Looking forward to that?

[ez8004]

So when is the next election going to be? Do you really think if corbyn stamps his feet enough he'll get one early?

 

Lol.

 

There's doesn't need to be an election for about 4 more years. 4 more years of a government, potentially led by Boris Johnson after a hardish Canada style brexit. Imagine the trade deals he'll line up. Looking forward to that?

 

There will not be another general election. The Tories will be terrified of losing.

 

If there is another GE, Theresa May will not be leading the Tories into it.

 

The only way I can see TM stay as PM is to have a second referendum.

[Anna B]

There will not be another general election. The Tories will be terrified of losing.

 

If there is another GE, Theresa May will not be leading the Tories into it.

 

The only way I can see TM stay as PM is to have a second referendum.

 

Theresa May has been completely emasculated, and will remain in charge of the Tories in name only. However she will be a handy fall guy to take the blame, while various deals are done behind the scenes.