woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Once again, for the third time. What metric are you using to determine 'democratic influence'? Who do you think you are? You've not input anything to why you think our 9% representation is a good thing. I'm using the quantity of Uk representatives in parliament. EU is 9% , Uk is 100%. Now, why don't you tell me why you think that is a good situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 That's a good standard. But it is still imposed on us by an external authority, that we have little democratic sway over. Because we don't like what our own government is doing, is the solution to get another external body to overule it? I think we should be making our own decisons and holding our own representatives to account, here. If you want stronger environmental protections, vote for a party that is going to bring them. If you want better workers rights, vote for a party that's going to bring them. Don't expect someone else to do it for you. ---------- Post added 10-10-2018 at 12:13 ---------- 100% . All those MPs are UK representatives, voting on UK legislation. They can also propose legislation, EU legislation is proposed by the commission and OK'd by EU parliament. How is your influence 100% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How is your influence 100% ? Not 'my' , I am one of 60 million. Uk electorate influence over the parliament governing it. I think you understand anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Who do you think you are? I'm someone who's trying to get you to at least back up your claims with something approaching an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How is your influence 100% ? faux patriotism its the old arguement of but it might make a mess of our economy oh thats ok, at least its "our" mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'm someone who's trying to get you to at least back up your claims with something approaching an argument. So, are you going to answer why you think it's OK? Obviously with well researched and critically thought out appraisal of your findings. ---------- Post added 10-10-2018 at 12:25 ---------- faux patriotism its the old arguement of but it might make a mess of our economy oh thats ok, at least its "our" mess Why is it faux patriotism? It's about valuing our democracy. There is no 'old argument' about 'our mess' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So, are you going to answer why you think it's OK? Obviously with well researched and critically thought out appraisal of your findings. that what? we only had 9% influence in the EU? maybe because we were a club of 28 countries and all get a say, now thats democratic, maybe youd want us to have 15% say and maybe one of the smaller nations dont get a say at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Not 'my' , I am one of 60 million. Uk electorate influence over the parliament governing it. I think you understand anyway. We had that at the last election and look what happened..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So, are you going to answer why you think it's OK? Obviously with well researched and critically thought out appraisal of your findings' . Back up your claims. What metric are you using to determine 'democratic influence'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Back up your claims. What metric are you using to determine 'democratic influence'? I've written it already in the reply, if you go back and read it. Have you noticed you are just repeating the the same petty question, but aren't actually offering any alternative view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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