woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 It isn't hassle free, there's more paperwork for starters - let alone the need for "donations" in certain countries. Not so the EU. OK, I do it everyday, exporting Sheffield manufactured goods worldwide, EU and non-EU. I don't find it a hassle it takes about 3 seconds longer on a shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If they get enough support for a referndum, then they will have to be allowed one, as last time. The comment was more of my opinion, that if they want to have one they can. You just seem to be arguing for the sake of it. They had a referendum before the EU referndum, you are making it cause and effect, when it isn't. They may well have another even if we stay, how does that fit in?I’m not arguing for the sake of it, nor making any parallel to the 2016 referendum, in the least: I’m simply following the logic of your own argument, that further regionalisation is desirable. You’re the poster dodging my question with a deflection trying to establish that causality. I didn't reference any fear angle, only that an expanding EU exaggerates my concerns with it, i.e the exact topic we were discussing So why did you pick Turkey as an example? Other countries are much closer to EU accession over time than Turkey. Ironically enough, the notion of an expanding UK (as mooted by some prominent Leavers wishing for the RoI to return to the Union) goes straight into my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 OK, I do it everyday, exporting Sheffield manufactured goods worldwide, EU and non-EU. I don't find it a hassle it takes about 3 seconds longer on a shipment. Under what trade agreement are you exporting at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I’m not arguing for the sake of it, nor making any parallel to the 2016 referendum, in the least: I’m simply following the logic of your own argument, that further regionalisation is desirable. You’re the poster dodging my question with a deflection trying to establish that causality. So why did you pick Turkey as an example? Other countries are much closer to EU accession over time than Turkey. Ironically enough, the notion of an expanding UK (as mooted by some prominent Leavers wishing for the RoI to return to the Union) goes straight into my question. Picked Turkey, as they would by then be the largest population member. Bosnia and Serbia could be mentioned instead. Remeber, we all have a different opinions. I'm not trying to trick you or 'win' an argument, only explaining why my opinion is what it is. I don't mind what you believe, that's what a democracy is all about. ---------- Post added 10-10-2018 at 15:37 ---------- Under what trade agreement are you exporting at the moment? You need to answer some questions from further up, before firing new ones out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Under what trade agreement are you exporting at the moment? Does Ebay have one? (just a joke before anyone gets the hump ) Edited October 10, 2018 by truman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Does Ebay have one? (just a joke before anyone gets the hump ) Not got the hump, but we are well respected organisation, selling through our own channels worldwide, employing local people, selling to good customers and colleagues in EU, USA, Australia, New Zealand etc Trading with those non-eu countries is not problematic neither is importing from them and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 You need to answer some questions from further up, before firing new ones out. Come on, the 'democratic influence' thing was nonsense, you know it, everyone else knows it. So, under what trade agreement are you exporting under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Come on, the 'democratic influence' thing was nonsense, you know it, everyone else knows it. So, under what trade agreement are you exporting under? Only questions, never any answers, I see now why you are happy delegating decison making to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Only questions, never any answers, I see now why you are happy delegating decison making to others. Under what trade agreement to you currently export under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Remember, we all have a different opinions. I'm not trying to trick you or 'win' an argument, only explaining why my opinion is what it is. I don't mind what you believe, that's what a democracy is all about.I’m aware -and tolerant, would you believe- of divergent opinions, and am not trying to trick you either: I’m just logic-testing your own argument, to see whether it is borne from pragmatism (worth debating SFAIC) or from nationalism (worth ignoring, again SFAIC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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