Lockdoctor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Why not say that then? ---------- Post added 24-10-2018 at 10:29 ---------- It's been asked before...can you say what "leave" means in the context of Brexit? He's already told the forum many times. The UK are not really leaving the EU, if the UK signed up to something which keeps the UK in the Customs Union indefinitely. Leave voters have every right to expect the UK to leave the EU completely because they won the EU referendum vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobinfoot Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 they have rules on budgets and financial stuff that have to be adhered to and yes it means ALL 28 countries have to abide by them I agree that if you sign up to a set of rules they should be followed. But since the coalition government in Italy were elected they have made no secret of their opposition to the EU. And it's no coincidence that the commission has chosen to reject a budget from a member state now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 He's already told the forum many times. The UK are not really leaving the EU, if the UK signed up to something which keeps the UK in the Customs Union indefinitely. Leave voters have every right to expect the UK to leave the EU completely because they won the EU referendum vote. The government are also obliged to keep the country in a half decent state, not shock it into an economic crash for Lord knows how long. We are leaving the EU. The EEA is a different thing altogether. A worse thing, as it goes, but its "What the democratic people" voted for. If they don't like how it's been done well that's tough ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 He's already told the forum many times. The UK are not really leaving the EU, if the UK signed up to something which keeps the UK in the Customs Union indefinitely. Leave voters have every right to expect the UK to leave the EU completely because they won the EU referendum vote. What does leave the EU completely mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) The government are also obliged to keep the country in a half decent state, not shock it into an economic crash for Lord knows how long. We are leaving the EU. The EEA is a different thing altogether. A worse thing, as it goes, but its "What the democratic people" voted for. If they don't like how it's been done well that's tough ****. None of us know the long term economic consequence of leaving the EU. The electorate was warned before the referendum vote that leaving the EU might have a detrimental effect on the UK economy. All the people who voted in the EU referendum were adults and were free to choose which ever option they wanted to choose. ---------- Post added 24-10-2018 at 12:11 ---------- What does leave the EU completely mean? Leaving the EU completely means leaving the Single Market, Customs Union and EU Jurisdiction. Edited October 24, 2018 by Lockdoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Leaving the EU completely means leaving the Single Market, Customs Union and EU Jurisdiction. Don't you think that we should do trade deals once we are out, with the EU and everyone else? We are either a member or not, there is no half out, or completely out, Brexit means Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Guido is pointing out that Brexit removes 50% of the non white MEPs from the European Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Don't you think that we should do trade deals once we are out, with the EU and everyone else? We are either a member or not, there is no half out, or completely out, Brexit means Brexit. Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yes, I agree. How long do you think it takes to do a trade deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 UKIP members are finally engaging with the EU, turning up in force and en masse to an EU meeting for the first time in years. The subject: EU members' entitlements, post Brexit. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ukip-members-discuss-their-pensions-and-post-brexit-benefits-1-5749285 It is hard to describe the craven hypocricy of these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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