Top Cats Hat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 UKIP members are finally engaging with the EU, turning up in force and en masse to an EU meeting for the first time in years. The subject: EU members' entitlements, post They spend all of their time complaining about the EU gravy train but when it comes to getting their snouts in the trough they are first in the queue! Maybe they should let Wee Tommy Yaxley-Lennon join UKIP. They could swap tips about how best to line your pockets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendix Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 They spend all of their time complaining about the EU gravy train but when it comes to getting their snouts in the trough they are first in the queue! Maybe they should let Wee Tommy Yaxley-Lennon join UKIP. They could swap tips about how best to line your pockets! It's highly likely he will join. Batten wants him in. Why do you think Yaxley-Lennon left court yesterday and went straight to lunch in the House of Lords with Batten and a UKIP supporting peer? Clearly he is being offered some kind of senior role in the party. Farage doesn't want him in. They are split on it. Farage will worry the wee fella will steal his media thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Clearly he is being offered some kind of senior role in the party Then he was badly advised to change his plea to not guilty. The case won't be heard before the new year and if he is jailed, it could be another year before he was out. Kippers aren't that bright, but even they wouldn't appoint someone to a senior role while they were serving a prison sentence. If Brexit is cancelled or delayed I can see Faridge not wanting to take on Wee Tommy in a popularity contest so he may form UKIP 2 or even fight over the name. It could end up like the Bay City Rollers where there is Tommy's UKIP and Nigel's UKIP standing against each other. And there is still an outside chance that Faridge may join the Conservatives to rally the Brextremists if Bojo the Clown and Rees Mogg bottle it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 How long do you think it takes to do a trade deal? The EU and UK obviously believe a trade deal can be completed in less than two years judging by the length of the planned transition period. It shouldn't really take any where near that length of time for the EU and UK, who have had a trade deal for over 40 years to sort something out. They are not starting from scratch. Similarly trade agreements with other countries shouldn't take that long because all what is needed is a little tinkering here and there from existing templates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The EU and UK obviously believe a trade deal can be completed in less than two years judging by the length of the planned transition period. It shouldn't really take any where near that length of time for the EU and UK, who have had a trade deal for over 40 years to sort something out. They are not starting from scratch. Similarly trade agreements with other countries shouldn't take that long because all what is needed is a little tinkering here and there from existing templates. Except they are...Any deal will now have to be approved by all the EU countries..even ones that are similar to ones that were made before some of those countries joined... and you reckon it shouldn't take long? Not to mention all the deals with non EU states...what happens in the meantime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads36 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) ...It shouldn't really take any where near that length of time for the EU and UK ... Similarly trade agreements with other countries shouldn't take that long because all what is needed is a little tinkering here and there from existing templates. i wish i had your confidence. it's worth pointing out we've already had more than 2 years, and we can't even agree with ourselves what kind of template* we want. and you do remember who's in charge of these negotiations? just checking... ? (they've hardly got a strong track record of doing, or achieving, anything at all ever) (*Canada? or Norway?) Edited October 24, 2018 by ads36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) i wish i had your confidence. it's worth pointing out we've already had more than 2 years, and we can't even agree with ourselves what kind of template* we want. and you do remember who's in charge of these negotiations? just checking... ? (they've hardly got a strong track record of doing, or achieving, anything at all ever) (*Canada? or Norway?) During the last two years the UK and EU have been negotiating the UK's withdrawal from the EU, which isn't future trading relations. 95% has already been agreed between the EU and the UK regarding the UK's withdrawal from the EU. Who hasn't got a track record of doing anything? ---------- Post added 24-10-2018 at 16:52 ---------- Except they are...Any deal will now have to be approved by all the EU countries..even ones that are similar to ones that were made before some of those countries joined... and you reckon it shouldn't take long? Not to mention all the deals with non EU states...what happens in the meantime? It shouldn't really take long for the EU countries to accept an offer to continue the existing trading relationship with the UK, given the fact the EU have a massive trade surplus with the UK. The transition period happens in the meantime assuming an agreement can be reached between the UK and EU regarding the UK's withdrawal from the EU. Edited October 24, 2018 by Lockdoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The EU and UK obviously believe a trade deal can be completed in less than two years judging by the length of the planned transition period. It shouldn't really take any where near that length of time for the EU and UK, who have had a trade deal for over 40 years to sort something out. They are not starting from scratch. Similarly trade agreements with other countries shouldn't take that long because all what is needed is a little tinkering here and there from existing templates. Do you know what the average time it takes to complete a trade deal,globally? I'll save you a google - it's 8 years. And that's an average. So that's 8 years, on average, of economic uncertainty. Now if you were a multinational with millions to invest, would you pick a country with all its trade deals locked and sorted or would you invest in a country that isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 During the last two years the UK and EU have been negotiating the UK's withdrawal from the EU, which isn't future trading relations. 95% has already been agreed between the EU and the UK regarding the UK's withdrawal from the EU. Who hasn't got a track record of doing anything? ---------- Post added 24-10-2018 at 16:52 ---------- It shouldn't really take long for the EU countries to accept an offer to continue the existing trading relationship with the UK, given the fact the EU have a massive trade surplus with the UK. The transition period happens in the meantime assuming an agreement can be reached between the UK and EU regarding the UK's withdrawal from the EU. It shouldn't have taken long to sort the brexit deal out and here we are more than 2 years on and still no certainty..how far back are we going to fall in the "transition" period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yet another "Lets's not consider the likely impacts of brexit" post. Is it some UKIP/leave campaign policy to discourage people from thinking about the likely impacts of brexit in case there's another vote? No. Don't be so paranoid. The point is that, as with nightmares, most of one's worst imaginings have precious little relevance to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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