The Joker Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) I can see a few more Tories jumping ship in an attempt to salvage their reputations, let the likes of his brother go down with the Brexit Titanic. Nope, BoJo the Clown jumped too! Cowardice is strong in that family edit: or self preservation Edited November 9, 2018 by The Joker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gee Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Nope, BoJo the Clown jumped too! Cowardice is strong in that family edit: or self preservation For opposite reasons TJ, Bojo is a full on Brexiteer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 the uk government made a multi year commitment at the start of the last budget cycle. if the matter comes to a court then maybe that will take a different view but the consensus seems to be that the uk will be expected to honor these commitments. though, the amount we have to pay would be reduced if the mep's made some goodwill gestures regarding their pensions. anyway, there will be far more things to worry about than this if we don't conclude a suitable withdrawl agreement. The current budget cycle ends in 2020. The UK will still be in the transitional period in 2020 if a withdrawal agreement is made. If the UK leave the EU without a deal, then any money which was going to be paid to the EU(40 billion) should go to the NHS instead over whatever period of time payments would have been made to the EU. ---------- Post added 09-11-2018 at 17:46 ---------- Because that's part of the Article 50 procedure for withdrawal from the EU. "A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament." The discussion was regarding the so called 'divorce settlement' (40 billion) which has been part of the withdrawal negotiations. We all know about Article 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Oh dear! The wheels really are coming off this clown car! "Minister Jo Johnson quits over Brexit and calls for new vote" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46155403 "Strong and stable" Hahaha.... "Coalition of chaos": Theresa May accused of "Total Betrayal" by "magic money tree" grabber Arlene Foster https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/theresa-may-accused-of-total-betrayal-as-dup-threatens-to-sink-her-brexit-deal/ar-BBPvWzk?ocid=spartanntphttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/theresa-may-accused-of-total-betrayal-as-dup-threatens-to-sink-her-brexit-deal/ar-BBPvWzk?ocid=spartanntp Hahaha:hihi: Edited November 9, 2018 by Mister M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Whiplash May - how long until the next referendum? "There will not be an election"... hahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve68 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Whiplash May - how long until the next referendum? "There will not be an election"... hahahahahahahaha Na......but the U.K. Might have a Pit stop to change the Driver and colour of its Clown car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 "Coalition of chaos": Theresa May accused of "Total Betrayal" by "magic money tree" grabber Arlene Foster Now if Teresa May had any kind of political acumen she would call the DUP's bluff as they know that bringing the government down would almost certainly lead to a General Election and most likely a Corbyn victory which would probably lead to a United Ireland. On the other hand does May know enough about Irish politics to know that the DUP are a bunch of mad fundamentalist cranks and reactionaries who could set fire to themselves and their party in a fit of religious fervour and misplaced principle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 The UK democratic people voted to leave the EU. The EU have had over two years to make alternative budget arrangements. It is unprecedented that an EU member has decided to leave their organisation, which means there is no procedure to follow. Any monetary offer the UK have made or discussed in the withdrawal negotiations are nothing more than a goodwill gesture. The EU should now display the same goodwill regarding the Irish border situation which the UK have shown, if they want to receive the sum being discussed. As a UK taxpayer, I don't want the UK to give the EU another penny, if a withdrawal agreement is not concluded. If there is a procedure to follow, then why do they need to negotiate a withdrawal agreement? Because that's part of the Article 50 procedure for withdrawal from the EU. "A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament." The discussion was regarding the so called 'divorce settlement' (40 billion) which has been part of the withdrawal negotiations. We all know about Article 50. There is a procedure to follow (despite your claim), it's part of the withdrawal agreement, as per Article 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Bojos brother Jo has quit government, saying there should be a peoples vote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46155403 gonna be interesting round the Johnson family table at christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdoctor Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 There is a procedure to follow (despite your claim), it's part of the withdrawal agreement, as per Article 50. All you have done is repeat yourself and continue to ignore the fact there is no procedure to follow regarding monetary settlements after an EU member decides to leave the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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