Top Cats Hat Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, Car Boot said: There has never been any intention by the capitalist establishment to carry out the democratic result of the June 2016 People's Vote. The bankers, and the politicians in their deep pockets, will never allow it. What we have seen is a carefully rehearsed charade. I'd love to know what crank conspiracy websites you frequent. You do come out with real some crackers now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The will of the People counts for nothing against the will of the bankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiBrexit Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Car Boot said: The will of the People counts for nothing against the will of the bankers. The will of the people is not economic ruin less rights the EU has given people rights that the UK Parliament would have never have given you. The EU will get stronger with or without the UK were no match for 27 united nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Cats Hat Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Car Boot said: The will of the People counts for nothing against the will of the bankers. That has always been the case and has absolutely nothing to do with membership of the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardandec Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Car Boot said: The will of the People counts for nothing against the will of the bankers. Except its not the will of the people anymore. Leaving without a deal is not an option, even the most extreme brexitier's must be able to see that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Car Boot said: The will of the People counts for nothing against the will of the bankers. bankers are people too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, AntiBrexit said: The will of the people is not economic ruin less rights the EU has given people rights that the UK Parliament would have never have given you. The EU will get stronger with or without the UK were no match for 27 united nations. An example of a good thing the eu has delivered. But it's also an example of the lack of democracy. Imposing will over a national government is one of the biggest issues. It's all well and good while it's nice things. What would happen if the eu swings to the right, and unpalatable laws start being passed? Vote for the party who has the policies you want, if a majority here want them, they will win and be implemented. Don't expect some third party organisation do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, andyofborg said: bankers are people too Liked If people were more familiar with history, and particularly Goebbels’ propaganda (ever heard or read the expression “der Wille der Menschen”? Germany, circa 1936), they’d be a tad more circumspect about “will of the people” -ing this and “will of the people”-ing that. It’s a reducive, divisive and meaningless sloganeering meme. In the wrong hands, clearly a dangerous one, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, L00b said: Liked If people were more familiar with history, and particularly Goebbels’ propaganda (ever heard or read the expression “der Wille der Menschen”? Germany, circa 1936), they’d be a tad more circumspect about “will of the people” -ing this and “will of the people”-ing that. It’s a reducive, divisive and meaningless sloganeering meme. In the wrong hands, clearly a dangerous one, too. Ok, so the nazis said it, so talking about the will of the people is dangerous?? What cobblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, woodview said: An example of a good thing the eu has delivered. But it's also an example of the lack of democracy. Imposing will over a national government is one of the biggest issues. It's all well and good while it's nice things. What would happen if the eu swings to the right, and unpalatable laws start being passed? Vote for the party who has the policies you want, if a majority here want them, they will win and be implemented. Don't expect some third party organisation do it. there is plenty of democracy, laws just don't appear from the EU. there is a whole process which involves the elected european parliament and the council of ministers (made up of elected ministers) and the individual countries governments have a great deal of control over just how the the directives are written into the national law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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