ez8004 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, apelike said: Aren't you an advocate of "the peoples vote", you know the vote where the general populous would have their say on any final deal? I would much rather this country be run by technocrats who actually know what they are talking and unilaterally cancel this nightmare. If you don't know what a technocrat is, go educate yourself. Since I can't have that, then any method of cancelling Brexit goes. Edited December 13, 2018 by ez8004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, melthebell said: its NOT a class divide, it wasnt based on class lines, what it showed though is there is a significant proportion of poorer people from poorer areas who WRONGLY believe that brexit will make their lives better, they were lied to, it wont, infact if it goes tits up they will be the first to suffer, like i said. and also like i said, turkeys voting for christmas, complete lunacy. 1 hour ago, ez8004 said: You're blaming us because you couldn't hack it at school? REALLY? Maybe, just maybe you lot worked harder on your education, things could have been a lot different. 22 minutes ago, ez8004 said: I would much rather this country be run by technocrats who actually know what they are talking and unilaterally cancel this nightmare. If you don't know what a technocrat is, go educate yourself. All this talk we here about a country divided, and yet almost all of it, is from the remain side. Here, tv, social media, everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ez8004 said: I would much rather this country be run by technocrats who actually know what they are talking and unilaterally cancel this nightmare. Who would they be then as I dont know that there would be enough scientists or technicians who would qualify or fit the job? Nice try at evading the question though.. Edited December 13, 2018 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, *_ash_* said: All this talk we here about a country divided, and yet almost all of it, is from the remain side. Here, tv, social media, everywhere. the country IS divided, brexiters, remainers, the tories are divided, labour are divided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, melthebell said: socialist worker? theyre scumbags too, while we were on the streets fighting nazis they were trying to sell their papers, thats all they ever went on marches for, sell papers You mean they were building an alternative to capitalism by selling their newspaper. Building the class struggle by distributing a political message to those who were receptive to a different way of doing things. Recruiting new volunteers, organising around various class issues. Now Brexit has polarised society into the have's and the have nots. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to deliver a massive blow to global capitalism and show people there is another, better, way of running society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Car Boot said: You mean they were building an alternative to capitalism by selling their newspaper. Building the class struggle by distributing a political message to those who were receptive to a different way of doing things. Recruiting new volunteers, organising around various class issues. Now Brexit has polarised society into the have's and the have nots. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to deliver a massive blow to global capitalism and show people there is another, better, way of running society. sigh Edited December 13, 2018 by melthebell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, ez8004 said: I would much rather this country be run by technocrats who actually know what they are talking and unilaterally cancel this nightmare. If you don't know what a technocrat is, go educate yourself. Since I can't have that, then any method of cancelling Brexit goes. Your commitment to democracy is awe inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, melthebell said: the country IS divided, brexiters, remainers, the tories are divided, labour are divided They always are. Every election. If this doesn't work out, then the next government might be able to win power by getting us back in with our tails between legs. Plenty of opportunities for new parties to build. A few right labour and some of the left tories could easily form a party., call it, the get us back in party, and see if it wins. It probably would tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, melthebell said: socialist worker? theyre scumbags too, while we were on the streets fighting nazis they were trying to sell their papers, thats all they ever went on marches for, sell papers Selling the paper on the streets was hard but essential work. It wasn't glamorous or exciting, like fighting nazis. A punch up and a few beers after. No, selling the papers helped build the party. Did you ever attend any meetings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Car Boot said: Selling the paper on the streets was hard but essential work. It wasn't glamorous or exciting, like fighting nazis. A punch up and a few beers after. No, selling the papers helped build the party. Did you ever attend any meetings? Class war meetings, sheffield anarchist yes..none of that socialist crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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